Posts by redvip2000

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JW Superstitions

by TOTH in

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my folks joined the cult in 1968 if memory serves.

i was about 5 or six when they began studying so i have heard many of the weird suppositions made and superstitions fostered by jw's.

i read a post from a new member a moment ago and was intigued by something they said.

The people who are more susceptible to these type of superstitions, are the same people who will probably believe anything that the Org tells them. They are the ones without critical thinking, the blind believers.

Actually i remember my parents telling me that they knew some people who thought their house was possessed so to resolve this, they went through every object inside their house which was given to them by different people, and took all of the ones who seemed the most suspicious and burned them...lol..

Supposedly, that took care of it..lol.

The more i think about this issue the more i believe that there is certainly a correlation between how evolved someone is, and how prone one is to believing this type of nonsense. Just look what people believed in 150 years ago, and 300 years ago, and 1000 years ago. They believed in the most incredible things with very little critical thinking. The more evolved as a person you become, the more rational you are.

My dad still believes that you can't get a haircut after eating....lol..no matter how much i tell him that it's nonsense.

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It CAN'T go on much longer

by jean-luc picard in

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so thats what my mum told me today.

i've learned to hold my tongue but i was thinking,.

"why can't it?

redvip2000

My mom says that same thing when i go over. Never fails. In fact that is all she thinks about, her whole world revolves around the Big A. The last time i went over she said that she can't wait for it to happen so she can be young again and so that she can have a nice little house in a peaceful place with her family.

It's at times like those that i realize that at this point in her life, it's probably better for her to stay in her paradise bliss dream, instead of knowing the truth. Ultimately the truth would bring devastation and would break her spirit. I rather her live the rest of her days with some hope, even if it never materializes.

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Want honest answers

by independenthinker in

i've wanted to make this account for the past 2 weeks, but ive been afraid that ill get caught by posting.

do they check this site?.

im 18 years old,baptized at 14. really my problems started a few weeks ago.

redvip2000

Hi consider yourself lucky that you are discovering this at the age of 18. For many out there, they come to this realization much later in life, after wasting decades in service to the bOrg.

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Jehovahs Witnesses and Entitlement

by hoser in

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i've noticed an attitude among the friends that they feel that they are owed something by society.

example: at the last meeting one of the elders gave a talk about how "the system" is getting harder and harder to make a living.. .

i know its a recession out there, but to blame satan the devil for your economic woes is kinda harsh don't you think.

redvip2000

I don't agree that overall JWs are bad employees, on the contrary, but those are good points.

In any case, almost all of the humanitarian work and assistance that is performed throughout the JW congregations are due to the contribution and effort from individual JWs who, out of their own volition, decide to help the ones who need the most.

The Org as we know, does not contribute a single penny to help these, even though many of these worked for years and years as publishers or pioneers and logically generated a lot of revenue for the Org, most of the times out of their own pockets.

Shameful to see how little the Org takes care of their very own.

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1914+100 Years

by Conan The Barbarian in

i have been reading things for a while.

in approximately 20 months it will be the year 2014. that year will be 1914+100 years.

i don't know how the wts is going to get around that if the "present system" is still in existence.

redvip2000

IMO , once you have accepted the overlapping generation interpretation, the 100 year mark bears very little significance. I doubt that 2014 will make a dent in association.

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ExJW who was a former friend explains why she defriended me on FB - and my response!

by Broken Promises in

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hi broken promises,.

since i'll be seeing you on saturday [at her sisters wedding who is also an exjw], i thought i should let you know why i removed you from my friends list and didn't accept your last request.

i did this because i saw you were in an ex jehovah's witness recovery group.

redvip2000

You friend as usual displays the normal faulty logic that is enbedded in most of JWs beliefs and trains of thought.

Nothing of what she says makes sense, and yet she is not able to discern that. Still some of us wonder why many of JWs are not able to see the fault logic in the organizational beliefs. Well folks this is exactly why - how can she see that fault logic in the Org, when she can't even discern the blatant ridiculous logic in her argument? Need we say more?

Some people simply aren't very bright, and i've come to grips with that

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Are major earthquakes on the increase??

by Vanderhoven7 in

a jw writes as proof that 1914 is key.... the newencyclopdiabritannica (1987) lists 63 major historical earthquakes spanning the past 1,700 years.

of this total, 27, or 43 percent, have struck since 1914. the book terranonfirma, by professors gere and shah, has a list covering a longer period.

of the total significant earthquakes in that list, 54 percent have taken place since 1914. even granting that records from past centuries are incomplete, we cannot escape the conclusion that in our time mankind has been greatly affected by earthquakes.. does anyone have access to the the newencyclopdiabritannica (1987) or info that would either support or refute the above allegations.. .

redvip2000

I agree, i dont think Jesus meant earthquakes. He was addressing issues related to people, mankind, and not the planet - how people who change gradually and negatively towards the end.

Although again, i dont see how this can be measured, since there is greater number of people and thus greater number of disturbances for that simple fact.

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Watchtower's United Nations Association

by Celestial in

temporarily, there's confusion until i get the facts straight: .

http://www.jwfacts.com/watchtower/united-nations-association.php .

http://www.jehovahsjudgment.co.uk/watchtower-un-ngo/default.html .

redvip2000

We can argue about this all day, but the crux of the issue really is what the Watchtower is doing via this association. The level of involvement can vary once you gain NGO membership.

I sincerely don't buy into the "using the library" excuse. The Org has a history of pushing it's freedom to preach agenda using legal means,

and what seems more logical to me is that they have been and continue to influence decision makers who hold weight in extending "the work" to countries where this is prohibited.

I can even see how they probably reason this internally. At a high level, the leadership justifies this by a "means to an end" excuse, where yes they are dealing with the "harlot" but with the intention of expanding Jehovah's work.

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Notes from 2 day assembly - "Thought Control"

by baltar447 in

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these notes were sent to me from a close friend who is biding his time to leave.. some of this we have read about already, the demo with the two brothers and the damage control they are doing over the ridiculous generation nonsense, but the thing about "thought control"tm i had not heard before...... ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------.

you learn something new every day at the 'sembly.

today at the 'sembly we were educated on the importance of, and i quote, "practicing thought control" .

redvip2000

It is interesting that although everything seems to indicate that all numbers are decreasing in the Org, including attendance and baptisms, the overall number of JWs continues to be reported as increasing. I understand that most of this is probably in poor countries, but i would not put it past the org to somehow be cooking the numbers.

Also you can really tell how the Org is spending more and more time to re-enforce the "trouble beliefs". They surely know that the bleeding has started, and are trying to control it as best as possible. Expect more of this. The Watchtower is well aware of the discussions that are going on , on the internet and is trying to counter act on them.

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Hubby is doing research on D'fing to present to the CO

by cognac in

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he thinks the light needs to get brighter on this so we are going to put a report together to give to the co. it's really bothering him because his dad was d'ffed for over 15 years - he has schizophrenia and even a co said he didn't think he should have ever been d'ffed to begin with.

he went to texas to save a woman from cockroaches - clearly this was because of his mental state.

he got f'ffed for that because they said he cheated on his wife and even if he didn't he had no business putting himself in that position.

redvip2000

sorry to say, but all this effort of bringing this up to the CO, amounts to a tremendous waste of time.

Do you know how many letters bethel gets from around the world, confronting, exposing, complaining about different issues? Even if he fowarded this to bethel, they would put it the big bin in the service department, and have the company boy do a diagonal reading on all of them, followed by a big hug on all the letters and into the recycling bin.

The only thing your hubby is accomplishing is to become marked. The CO will without a doubt speak to the elders to "keep an eye on him".