Posts by Phizzy

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Brutality

by Anna Marina in

wt says jesus became invisibly present in 1914. what a load of old rubbish.

but they are not the only ones.. in 1927 a woman called helen keller wrote a book called my religion.

her book advocates the teachings of emanuel swedenborg who claimed that jesus had already returned.

Funny you should mention Emanuel Swedenborg, I have a complete set of his works, (Books) , up in the Loft, I must get them down and have a read. I remember glancing through them when I bought them at an Auction when I was a young J.W.

Boy, were they weird ! all about him visiting different Planets and the people and civilisations that he found there, worse than Russell !!.

I will probably flog them on E-Bay, people collect that sort of crap.

Yes, the system, if operated by certain Elders can be really brutal, but the whole Disfellowshipping and Disassociating thing is a brutal system, designed simply to control, and to keep the likes of us telling our family and friends, The Truth About The "truth".

It is also unscriptural, if you really read the Scriptures they misuse with understanding.

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2 More Letters Arrived! (as of 2020-06-09)

by Atlantis in

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friends

2 letters arrived.. .

2020-06-04--directions relating to covid-19----6 page letter.

2020-06-04--announcement.

Phizzy

Thank you Petra !

I just had a quick glance, will read properly tomorrow, but did I read it right, one seemed to be saying that if a DF'd or DA'd person joined a Zoom Meeting, they should come in late and leave early as they might in a K.H. meeting ???

FFS ???? What are they like ? Controlling TWATS !!!

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Fading out during the pandemic?

by Kingdavid41 in

given the current world situation with the covid-19 pandemic and so many social distancing, staying at home and self quarantining.

all meetings are currently being held on zoom assemblies and conventions are viewed via the website .

this is the perfect time to fade-out and you probably won’t even be noticed!

Phizzy

Not sure about the " may not even be noticed" bit.

The latest Letter to Elders urges yet again that Elders contact all that they can regularly, even Inactive ones, so the High Control is in overdrive rather than slacking off. I found it easy (ish) to Fade in a fairly large Congregation with lazy Elders than I think it would be now, Elders have the time to check up on you.

And have been instructed to do so.

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Saving Money While Stuck At Home

by Simon in

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friends

so you're stuck at home, you may be worried about your income, welcome to the world of filling your stuck-in-the-house time with saving some money!.

here in canada, our energy costs are going up because we have a carbon tax.

today, in the middle of the crisis, trudeau is raising it by 50%, probably as some perverse "thank you" to all the truckers delivering vital goods.

Phizzy

" Fancy Coffee" has never been my thing, I buy great quality beans, grind them myself, and make a better cup for pence than what they serve for about £2.50. They can keep it ! Rip Off !

Where I am not saving money, or rather am spending more, but still saving overall, is, because of boredom, I am drinking and smoking more than before Lock Down. But somehow, I have to keep somewhat sane.

We have brewed some rather nice St. Peter's I.P.A. which works out real cheap, so it is swings and roundabouts.

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Saving Money While Stuck At Home

by Simon in

jw
friends

so you're stuck at home, you may be worried about your income, welcome to the world of filling your stuck-in-the-house time with saving some money!.

here in canada, our energy costs are going up because we have a carbon tax.

today, in the middle of the crisis, trudeau is raising it by 50%, probably as some perverse "thank you" to all the truckers delivering vital goods.

Phizzy

Very good advice on this Thread ! Thank you Simon for starting it.

We have put much of it in to practice, and have ended up saving money, and getting better quality food etc at the same time. I thought that Lock Down would cost me money, instead we have been living cheaper, but better, and are now not so lazy !

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Meet George Floyd

by cofty in

his murder was a crime and justice must be done, but it's sobering to learn more about the man who is being lionised by millions.

thanks as always to the courageous candace owens.. ....

Phizzy

Exactly T.D. Once that Principle, in all its parts, or some, have gone, and I believe it has in the USA. and to a slightly lesser extent here in the U.K., then it simply becomes "us and them ".

For those not familiar, here are The Nine : ( Just read, and think how many we may have lost)

The nine principles were as follows:

To prevent crime and disorder, as an alternative to their repression by military force and severity of legal punishment.
To recognise always that the power of the police to fulfill their functions and duties is dependent on public approval of their existence, actions and behaviour, and on their ability to secure and maintain public respect.
To recognise always that to secure and maintain the respect and approval of the public means also the securing of the willing co-operation of the public in the task of securing observance of laws.
To recognise always that the extent to which the co-operation of the public can be secured diminishes proportionately the necessity of the use of physical force and compulsion for achieving police objectives.
To seek and preserve public favour, not by pandering to public opinion, but by constantly demonstrating absolutely impartial service to law, in complete independence of policy, and without regard to the justice or injustice of the substance of individual laws, by ready offering of individual service and friendship to all members of the public without regard to their wealth or social standing, by ready exercise of courtesy and friendly good humour, and by ready offering of individual sacrifice in protecting and preserving life.
To use physical force only when the exercise of persuasion, advice and warning is found to be insufficient to obtain public co-operation to an extent necessary to secure observance of law or to restore order, and to use only the minimum degree of physical force which is necessary on any particular occasion for achieving a police objective.
To maintain at all times a relationship with the public that gives reality to the historic tradition that the police are the public and that the public are the police, the police being only members of the public who are paid to give full-time attention to duties which are incumbent on every citizen in the interests of community welfare and existence.
To recognise always the need for strict adherence to police-executive functions, and to refrain from even seeming to usurp the powers of the judiciary, of avenging individuals or the State, and of authoritatively judging guilt and punishing the guilty.
To recognise always that the test of police efficiency is the absence of crime and disorder, and not the visible evidence of police action in dealing with them.

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Bucket List for the years A.C.

by Phizzy in

what things, modest and attainable, will be on your bucket list to do after covid ?

preferably post things you would not be allowed to do if you were still a jw!.

i will start, i want to go to an actual horse race, and have a small flutter on each race..

Phizzy

I am already a Blood Donor, have done so from right after I left, I Vote, though at present in the U.K there is not a Party I would Vote for, I am a Democratic Socialist, and I smoke, small double filter cigarillos. I will try to give up after this Pandemic is over.

So, a Horse race it is,.... so far. I may think of something else, frowned upon , if not even actually forbidden, that I will add later.

Any ideas for me ? I do find it amusing to do such things, and sort of Cathartic, to exercise my new freedom more fully.

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Bucket List for the years A.C.

by Phizzy in

what things, modest and attainable, will be on your bucket list to do after covid ?

preferably post things you would not be allowed to do if you were still a jw!.

i will start, i want to go to an actual horse race, and have a small flutter on each race..

Phizzy

I think that going to a Horse race and betting would be frowned upon at least, and I would not have done it as a J.W in my day for that reason, whether the Elders in most Congregations would actually view it as serious I don't know these days, I know my Elders back in the day would just have laughed, they were a laid back lot, not typical at all.

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Is it me or is John Cedars channel becoming a self important circle fest

by phoenixrising in

i still like the commentary on the jw.org monthly’s, i can skip through some parts.

but it seems like he is pushing too hard to put out videos and the quality is getting very low on the content..

Phizzy

I think Lloyd's motives are O.K. I also think he is a bit of an attention seeking narcissist, maybe. He certainly left this Site in a Hissy Fit one day, over what was , yes, a personal attack, an Ad Hominem, but it didn't seem to me that distancing himself from here was very productive for his main work of waking up JW's, at the time.

His work is valuable, as many have testified, he helped them wake up, and to successfully follow the Road to Freedom.

Keep up that good work Lloyd !

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Bucket List for the years A.C.

by Phizzy in

what things, modest and attainable, will be on your bucket list to do after covid ?

preferably post things you would not be allowed to do if you were still a jw!.

i will start, i want to go to an actual horse race, and have a small flutter on each race..

Phizzy

What things, modest and attainable, will be on your Bucket List to do After Covid ? preferably Post things you would NOT be allowed to do if you were still a JW!

I will start, I want to go to an actual Horse Race, and have a small flutter on each Race.