No wonder they never mention the word, 99% of the time Syllogism is used as a method of reasoning to come to a conclusion that is a Fallacy. And we know who are the Masters of that method, the J.W org !
i would think that the first thing to go for ex jws is the blood ban.
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would you take a transfusion or give blood now!.
I started to donate Blood as soon as I left in 2008. I also visited my Doctor and informed him I was no longer a JW and if I needed a Transfusion I would willingly accept it, he smiled and said " I bet you would !", he also made sure that on my Patient Records there was no mention of refusing a B.T. or of my being a J.W.
After checking the Records he told me that there never had been any such notes on there ! This surprised me a little, because I know we were urged by the Org to make sure such a thing was on our Record, but I obviously had never mentioned it, I also never carried a Suicide (Blood) Card in later years either.
I can understand some ex JW's being reluctant to either Donate or receive Blood, the fear of it ran deep after years of indoctrination, and all for a Doctrine thought up in the late Forties I believe, by Mad Freddy Franz.
So much Blood is on the hands of the Org, including and especially today's G.B. They could change this murderous, totally discredited Doctrine with the stroke of a pen, and call it New Light, they will not for fear of Litigation, so they allow more JW's, even children, to die, all for $$$.
the watchtower—study edition | july 2020.
6. the first-century disciples built their faith on their knowledge of the scriptures and the teachings of jesus christ, that is, “the truth of the good news.” (gal.
2:5) this truth consists of the whole body of christian teachings, including the facts about jesus’ ransom sacrifice and his resurrection.
When I first left the J.W Org I decided I needed to research properly, looking only for facts and evidence that would withstand any scrutiny and any attack, only "truth" of that calibre would suffice.
I started in the reverse order to the one they give in that W.T. number one was the Org, was it " the truth" ? Answer NO !
Number 2 was " The Bible, is it god's word ? " Answer NO!
Number 3 was " Is there a god ?" simple answer NO ! ( certainly all the gods man has made up, even new boy on the block Jehovah, do not exist).
The Org's 3 reasons were demolished completely by proper research that established the Truth of these matters.
A bit of advice to folks who have not done this, start with my Number 3, once you have established that no god invented by man exists, the other things do not matter, apart from perhaps getting rid of the feelings and fears, like Armageddon etc, that the Org embedded in us.
To really " use your power of reason" as the WT says , and use it properly, is to come to the same conclusions as me. If you do not wish to fully use your power of reason, do not want to think rationally, do not want to accept Truth, you remain entrapped in Delusional Belief, a sorry Mental Condition ( Illness).
i've discussed this before but not in this context alone.. i remember being about 14 years old, 1994 and starting a study in the uk with a charming muslim from the congo.
he was a very pleasant middle aged guy with a big family, two wives, always the most hospitable.
at the time the watchtower had a book on many religions, a thick red book called 'mankind's search for god' so i would read and discuss the section on islam with him.. interestingly, but not surprising, many details they had were wrong about islam and he would explain how and correct me.
The Bible writers were only knowledgeable about their own time, and culture, and narrow geographic area. Their knowledge of history was faulty, as seen by the many errors they made, not just the deliberately made up stuff. They certainly had no knowledge of the future, every prediction they ever made did not come true in the terms that they wrote down, NOT ONE !!
Your point is spot on, the things that are missing from the Bible make it plain that it is written by ill educated men, even for their own time they know little that is common knowledge in nearby Cultures. And so the Bible is 90% very poor Fiction.
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I had that very experience of teaching the " right thing", and yet being haughtily told that " the Org does not teach that" as though I should shut up.
I was mercifully, and much to my amusement, proved correct when the Org in one of its many U turns, published my point of view in the very next book that came out ! ( the details of this matter are boring, so won't spell them out).
The one I never got an answer to was the one where I pointed out that Jesus own words were contradictory, completely, in another area than the above, and of course the Elder just stuck to the Org's line, even showing me what a Public Talk Outline said on it, rather than the Bible ! but as I said, "You can't have it both ways ". Either one statement was right, or the other was. Of course, the Gospels contain a number of totally contradictory things, I didn't know that at the time , I was a callow youth, but still took on the Elders !
i knew a few pretty intelligent elders .
sometimes i would wonder why they remained as elders or even witnesses because they were successful men who made a good living and were highly respected because of their qualities.. that is a rather small group.
most elders that i know of aren’t the brightest bulbs in the sky.
The main trouble with many Elders was and is that they are simply not qualified to deal with things that come their way, but are given the impression by the Org that they are.
When dealing with matters like Abuse, Mental Health , even the personal Finances of the members of their flock, they are simply not qualified and should leave it to those who are, entirely. A huge number of lives have been ruined and even lost because these guys are promoted above their ability, even the intelligent and smart ones are not professionals in the areas I mentioned, so should leave it to those who are, lives depend upon it.
pyramidology .
of isaac newton, piazzi smyth, pastor c.t.
russell:)what went wrong?let’s keep our investigation simple!where and how was the obsession with the great pyramid begun?
That Wiki article is correct, Israeli Archaeologists were sent to find proof of of Israel and the Exodus story, they honestly and correctly reported back they could find No Evidence for it !
And as the Article hints at, Israel as a group comes much later in history than the Patriarchs and the Moses stories are set. The "History" we read in the Bible was invented by returnees after the Babylonian exile to give a boost to Nationhood for those that now occupied the land, they wanted a narrative about their history as a Nation that would justify their position. That same narrative is being falsely used by Israel today, and falsely believed by gullible and ignorant politicians in the Unite States and elsewhere. The whole Bible is really 90% or more a work of Fiction.
This explains a lot !
whats the latest news on this ?
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been quiet lately..
Good luck with " cashing in " on the Chelmsford project in the future. A business oriented Building Complex built on a toxic Site miles for anywhere significant, when Businesses are leaving the U.K in droves now, and Commercial premises will be two a penny ?
I think they have built a White Elephant.
i predict that in a year kingdumb halls will be replaced by zoom.
they will still have assembly halls but will charge a heavy entry fee.
baptisms will continue to be so low that would not be worth counting.
The Cult is without doubt moribund. But that gradual dying off will take some time, as their Business Method is so lucrative, it will be a long time before they finally run out of cash.
I can foresee that they will go more on line, eventually. I think they will bring back the usual crap, door knocking, Meetings at the K.H etc to reassure the R&F that all is well.
But they will go on-line almost totally in a fairly short time thereafter, in order to sell more K.Halls and Assembly Halls, and to shed the Third World type places that contribute nothing, and actually cost them money. Anywhere that becomes Internet connected they will still keep on.
If this means shedding millions of members, they do not care, as long as the remaining members still contribute.
Remember, this lot, JW Org, are all about the $$$.
whats the latest news on this ?
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been quiet lately..
Yes George, typical JW Org M.O. Use you for no cost as long as they can, as soon as that changes, throw you on the mercy of charity from other JW's. At no cost to the Org.
They did this for many a long year with D.O's ,C.O's and all the other " Full Time" folks, so no change there.
Many years ago, maybe even two decades, when London properties were going up and up in value, I suggested a move similar to the Chelmsford one to a group of Elders, they just nodded and didn't really see the point of what I was saying. Which was, sell on a rising market. They have left it so long that here in the U.K when Brexit really begins to bite from Jan. 1st property prices, especially Commercial property, but even Development too, will fall dramatically, they will sell for far less than even when I proposed it !
