Phizzy

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  A little boy will lead them [i.e. the wolf...the leopard...the lion. Is. 11:6-9]

  by Wonderment in

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  don't know if this subject has been touched on here before, but i have wondered at times, how much literalness can be applied to this messianic prophecy within a paradise setting (assuming one probable interpretation of is.

  the wt presents a mental image of complete harmony between animal and mankind.. does this biblical passage somehow indicate that existing wild beasts will feed on vegetation alone.

  animals are not spoken of living forever in the bible.

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  Phizzy

  Isaiah was not making a "Messianic prophecy" at all, he is talking of an incoming King in Israel at the time which he wrote.

  I have not made a definitive study of "Isaiah", but I think little can be construed as Messianic, without retro-fitting the idea, as the Gospel Writers did.

  Anything that may be vaguely Messianic would have been inserted by the Compilers of the Hebrew Bible, who worked after the Babylonian Exile, editing, redacting and generally altering the old Texts they did use, probably inventing whole chunks of new content themselves.
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  2022-07-01--Additional Contribution Box!

  by Atlantis in

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  2. friends

  the watchtower wants more money!.

  https://we.tl/t-jyt0susog5.

  atlantis!.

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  Phizzy

  The meme above, George Carlin's as usual cutting and perceptive observation, leaves out one aspect.

  Jehoober OWNS the Universe, all of it, including this tiny, insignificant Blue Planet, therefore, how come he cannot simply direct Funds and Wealth to his chosen Org. ? He did it for King Solomon.

  Why not do something dramatic, like have the J.W's discover Gold or Diamonds on their Property ?

  "Oh, He could not do that". Er ..... He is the Almighty, All Powerful god, and he cannot do that ??

  "Well no, because Satan would say....." So Satan is more powerful ?
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  Sixteen years later and wow is life different

  by BlackSwan of Memphis in

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  2. experiences

  i have no idea if this is the right place to post this.

  if you're just leaving the witnesses or questioning and toying with the idea of leaving..... life goes by fast.

  and either you rip the band aid off and deal with it or let it fester and eat you alive.

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  Phizzy

  I really started in earnest my Journey to the Sunlit Uplands of Freedom and Peace just behind you, 15 years ago, after nearly six decades in !

  Those years of "journey" have flown by, I have grown up, educated myself, and become the Real Me and truly, consistently Happy for the first time ever in my life. You cannot be truly happy in the Cult, whoever you are.

  I am so happy for you, may you long continue to enjoy life and receive its Blessings !
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  It's been a long 9 years Lloyd Evans / John Cedars

  by Newly Enlightened in

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  original reddit post (removed).

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  Phizzy

  " It’s quite possible she needs help to break this co-dependency cycle."

  Sadly this is so true of many in an Abusive Relationship. I fear he may be a controlling Bully.
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  2 Peter and Jude and 1 Enoch

  by Parallax in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  i'm new to the forum and i have a question about what was said in a 16-year-old thread at this forum.

  a poster by the name of leolaia said.... the author of 2 peter did not recognize that jude 6 was an allustion to 1 enoch (just as he did not realize that jude 9 was an allusion to the assumption of moses and thus rephrased it incoherently in 2 peter 2:11), or he may have objected to the enochic reference (just as jude 14-15 was omitted in 2 peter 2).

  in either case, the author overlooked the enochic allusion and instead recognized the passage as an allusion of hesiod and thus embellished the passage from jude with an allusion to hesiod's tartarus.. .

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  Phizzy

  Welcome to the Forum Parallax !!

  I think it is great that you are reading the Posts of the truly great, erudite and Scholarly "Leolaia" ! When I first joined here, it was she who helped to add to my Education, in many ways, opened my eyes to the truth about the Bible, and its real place in Literature, and explained SO much.

  She spurred me on to study more deeply the whole of the Bible, as a serious Student, with an open mind, having thrown away my "J.W Specs" that make a believer approach the Bible in a childish, and ignorant way.

  You will have many hours of joy and illumination if you read as many of her Posts as you can !

  Please tell us a little of your story, without revealing details that will identify you , if you prefer, Happy Reading !
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  2022-Secret Watchtower Disfellowshipping Reference Manual.

  by Atlantis in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  massive new document written by wt, 837 pages, meant for arguments vs officials and media to defend the disfellowshipping arrangement.

  found in the casefile in norway.

  meant to be secret.. .

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  Phizzy

  The mere size of this Volume is very telling, they devote all those pages to show how to get rid of someone, but how many pages do they devote to REAL Shepherding Work ??

  Hardly any ! yes, there are the odd phrases here and there, but some of them are not really Shepherding, they are encouraging Elders to Bully, as in the oft used phrase: to " Spiritually adjust" a person.

  Do you know, I am beginning to think the JW org. is a Cult !
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  NWT Revisions

  by Jeffro in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  there is mention on a wikipedia article that there was a 2006 revision of the nwt.

  is this true?

  what differences are there?

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  Phizzy

  There always a lot wrong with the NWT right from the start, but generally, considering they had no Scholars expert in the field of producing a new version of the Bible, they did well, often many renderings being better than rival versions. It was not therefore though a true "Translation", and still is not. It is a work based on the work of other Translators.

  A couple of things that were wrong were its initial slavery to the concept of rendering the Bible "literally", often idioms etc from the originals were given as near to the original words as possible, and thus were ponderous and hard to read in English, but also the method lost the sense of the original idiom.

  The second, and more important, and in fact dishonest error, was to change the meaning of the words in the original language, to suit their Theology. Of course many other versions are guilty of this too !

  It is a pity that the latest Version does little to improve it as contender in the market for "Recommended Good Version" .
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  What's going on with Emma Raducanu?

  by LoveUniHateExams in

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  2. entertainment

  so, emma raducanu was knocked out of wimbledon yesterday.. she won her first round match, and lost in the second round.. i wasn't expecting her to win the whole tournament, but i did kinda hope she would make it through the first week.. so, what's going on with her?

  is she not fully fit?.

  or maybe her body is not yet ready for the full pro circuit?

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  Phizzy

  Just 19 years old still, a good Athlete too, but winning at the top level consistently will only come in future years.

  Every Match, and especially the losses, is something to be learned from. Many eventual top stars took a few years after winning a big event, to do their "Apprenticeship" and then be able to win and stay at the top level.

  She seems to be committed to sticking to Tennis, though other career moves have been offered. She recently dropped sponsorship from some sources, to concentrate on her game.

  I am sure that with the right team around her, putting in the work, and being determined to win, she will do well, and have a long and illustrious career in Tennis,
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  Rates of PIMOs in bethel as apposed to R&F

  by joe134cd in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  with all the bethel leaks.

  i started to think about the levels of pimos with in bethel as apposed to the rank and file.

  would there be higher rates of pimos bethel due to seeing the more unsavoury side of it.

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  Phizzy

  I think seeing the unsavory side of the WT by living in Bethel has been an eye opener to many, but many of these still believe it is Jehoobers org. and put it down to "imperfect men".

  We had a lad from our Congo 30 years or so ago, go the Bethel, when he had been there for about a year, he said to me, "There is nothing Spiritual there". To my knowledge he is still a J.W. I think many are like this, eyes partially opened, but they do not look further in to it.
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  "Jehovah God"

  by Jeffro in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  the expression "jehovah god" has always seemed strange to me.

  even when i was a jw, i found the term awkward, and never used it myself.

  both words are nouns intended to be synonyms of each other, unless the name "jehovah" is being used as an adjective, which is also weird.

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  Phizzy

  Let's remember in the case of the O.T the writers, who were the Jews that came to Judah after the Babylonian Exile, they may have incorporated, and edited and redacted earlier Works, but they are the Writers.

  They were well aware of the other gods worshipped by the people they settled back among, and they were trying to establish Yahweh as their god, with no other to be worshipped. So the text they came up with made it clear, not only that it was Yahweh that was being written about, but that he was THE god to worship. Obfuscating the truth that Yahweh was adopted quite late into the basically Canaanite Pantheon their Israelite ancestors worshipped.