I remember a guy giving a Talk at what we called a Circuit Assembly in those days, he said "Remember, when you point the finger, there are three fingers pointing back at you !".
OH how that applies to the J.W org !!
do you have examples of wt style finger pointing (with 3 pointing right back).
"satans organization claims to be gods organization, and persecutes those who are actually members of gods organization.
satans organization sails under the high-sounding name of "christendom".
I remember a guy giving a Talk at what we called a Circuit Assembly in those days, he said "Remember, when you point the finger, there are three fingers pointing back at you !".
OH how that applies to the J.W org !!
i was in bethel for years early 2000s and was heavily involved with brd from start to finish .
im current elder in one of the congregations in london.
what i’ve noticed is huge changes since covid .
What is BRD ? short for bird ?
a lot of my ex fellow servants must be now in their seventies, what can you do?.
no children no money no home.
it is so sad.. so many decided not to have children as the end was right around the corner and that was decades ago.
When I was a young fella in August 1975, I started my private Pension, thinking the State Pension here in the U.K would not be sufficient. I was right, though being a J.W, I really did not expect to draw any pension from any source.
Remember, the End of the World, Armageddon and the New Order were all supposed to kick off in October '75.
As a serving M.S I was criticised by some Elders, lack of faith and all that, but I said "If I do not draw a pension, then great, but if I have to, I have one".
I realise now I did not have any faith in the words of those men who ruined so many lives with their Bullshit. Thankfully.
Well worth a listen. Two intelligent ladies, who had similar experiences, as they both left different religions, but both religions are High Control Mind Control Cults.
Thank you UUN for Posting this !
do you think the brothers who wrote watchtower articles are living in real world?........
david splane........ powerful by faith convention 2021 video.
please i got an excerpt of this from another video but the response by david splane is not included.
Ding said " I often wonder to what extent they believe their own teachings."
I came to the firm conviction,years ago, that most of the Writing Dept. and the Legal Dept. do NOT believe to any extent. Some not at all, it is just a cushy life and Career.
The Writing Dept, because it has always, and still does, use Mind Control and Loaded language etc.etc. If they believed it was the Truth, they would not have to do this, they are like lying Politicians in this.
The Legal Dept, if they believed they served a loving God, they would not spend their time trying to help in the cover up and protection of paedophiles, and making sure that the poor Victims suffer again, by limiting any rightful compensation as much as they can, to save the Org. from paying what they should.
These two Departments, along with the G.B are Disgusting and Evil. But J.W's think it is "the truth" and god's Org.
when is the kingdom of god coming?.
on being asked by the pharisees when the kingdom of god was coming, he answered them: “the kingdom of god is not coming with paratherisis; 21 nor will people say, ‘see here!’ or, ‘there!’ for look!
the kingdom of god is in your midst.” —lu 17:20,21. .
Never.
i thought it was just me that had a negative view of people who proclaim themselves to be activists.. but no, it seems i'm not alone!.
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i'm an xjw activist."
Not sure I was ever an Activist, I used to be far more active than I am now, on here, on FB and some other places. I really can't be arsed most of the time now. The J.W org and individual J.W's are of little real interest to me, the subject is boring.
I am now virtually an XJW Armchair Activist.
https://www.tagesspiegel.de/berlin/nachruf-auf-dieter-teschendorf-die-sache-mit-der-privatwirtschaft/28490176.html.
vor dem mauerfall verdiente er gut mit seiner druckerei.
danach kamen die zeugen jehovas und bezahlten ihre rechnung nicht.
Just possible those guys who did not pay were arrested perhaps ?
https://www.jehovahs-witness.com/search/?q=circuit+leasing .
In our Circuit we had a guy who made living buying and selling second hand cars, he laughed at the prices for the ex C.O. cars !
don't know if this subject has been touched on here before, but i have wondered at times, how much literalness can be applied to this messianic prophecy within a paradise setting (assuming one probable interpretation of is.
the wt presents a mental image of complete harmony between animal and mankind.. does this biblical passage somehow indicate that existing wild beasts will feed on vegetation alone.
animals are not spoken of living forever in the bible.
Isaiah was not making a "Messianic prophecy" at all, he is talking of an incoming King in Israel at the time which he wrote.
I have not made a definitive study of "Isaiah", but I think little can be construed as Messianic, without retro-fitting the idea, as the Gospel Writers did.
Anything that may be vaguely Messianic would have been inserted by the Compilers of the Hebrew Bible, who worked after the Babylonian Exile, editing, redacting and generally altering the old Texts they did use, probably inventing whole chunks of new content themselves.