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  The Hubris of the Governing Body

  by cofty in

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  2. beliefs

  it's difficult to comprehend how arrogant the members of the governing body must be to sanction much of the content that appears in their literature.

  they identify themselves as the 'faithful and discreet slave' - that alone requires an astonishing degree of pride.

  but what is even more amazing - arguably to the level of insanity - is the way they then use that phrase to elevate themselves above the rest of the organisation.

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  Phizzy

  Another thing this Thread has reminded me of, was when as a fairly young man I met a member of the Writing Committee, not quite a G.B member, but he was an arrogant, proud Twat, and enjoyed getting special respect from the R&F, respect that even to me then, as an active J.W, seemed unmerited.

  I had to sit through a Public talk this guy gave, with the air that he was imparting wonderful words of secret wisdom, it was boring and had zero what I called at the time "spiritual" content. A family member of this guy had visited him at the K.H he and a number of other G.B attended in N.Y, and said that Meeting was most "unspiritual" and boring too !

  Their Arrogance extends to not bothering to put any effort in to anything much.
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  UK kingdom halls closing

  by Farmer Jim1 in

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  2. friends

  can anyone out there that is pimo give an update on the rate of kingdom halls closing in the uk?.

  i was expecting a fire sale a few years back but i haven't heard much.

  some congregations that were struggling back in my day still seem to be holding on to their halls..

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  I too would be interested to know up to date info. on Congregation mergers and K.H sales.

  I just wonder if the Org. has called a halt on the old Scam of K.H turnover for a while in the U.K, as Property prices and sales have stagnated, they may have an eye to the future, for when the Market recovers. More £££ to be made then.

  There may be some "hidden" decrease as well, where say three Congregations were sharing a Hall, and those three are now two ?
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  Internal server error

  by peacefulpete in

  1. forum
  2. tech-support

  i've had this happen a number of times.

  i know an archived thread regarding luke 22:exists as i was recently reading it, but now is no longer available.

  it does not come up when using any combination of words that i know to be in the thread.

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  Phizzy

  Thanks for raising this Pete, and thanks to Simon for the remedy ! I just thought it was me not putting in the correct words needed in "Search", but it is not always so.

  Mind you, I have therefore wandered into some interesting Threads, not what I was looking for perhaps , but fascinating and informative, some really old ones, by or including you PP !
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  The Hubris of the Governing Body

  by cofty in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  it's difficult to comprehend how arrogant the members of the governing body must be to sanction much of the content that appears in their literature.

  they identify themselves as the 'faithful and discreet slave' - that alone requires an astonishing degree of pride.

  but what is even more amazing - arguably to the level of insanity - is the way they then use that phrase to elevate themselves above the rest of the organisation.

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  Phizzy

  This hubris, this crowing about how they "got 1914 right", the COMMAND to obey THEM, not be guided by Scripture, all that added to an already building Cognitive Dissonance in me, which culminated in my waking up, and after about a year, leaving for good.

  Thank you Cofty, this may help J.W's reading here, once seen, never forgotten with things like this. I remember too, when I was first alerted, after leaving actually, to the "Loaded Language" they use generally i.e "Honest hearted ones will......... " and dozens more phrases like that, again, once seen, it jumps out of the page at you !

  Good Thread.
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  Staying in physically for all the benefits

  by Indoubtbigtime in

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  i wonder how many are like me staying pimo for the great association and gathering etc.

  also find it very interesting having a front row seat watching the collapse of borg.. im not wasting any more time or money on anything i don’t want to do like preaching and mostly just go on zoom .

  there is nothing i want to do that would be considered disfellowshiping sin, i’m married and want to live by bible principles but i have serious doubts that the gb were chosen by god and are his one and only spokesmen on earth.

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  Really, it is my considered opinion that once you have left, and tasted freedom of thought and action, and found wonderful friends in the real world, you will say, why the hell did I not do this LONG AGO !

  It is actually horrible to be a liar, and by pretending to believe, you are lying to the people you say you respect and you want to be your friends, that Sir, is a low, dirty trick.

  Be truthful to yourself, and your "Brothers and Sisters", they at least deserve that.
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  March 2023 WT - Recruitment drive!

  by BoogerMan in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  dedicate your life to jehovah, by being baptized as a jw - not as a christian.

  (a follower of christ - acts 11:26).

  par.

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  Phizzy

  It is now the only way in the West, and parts of the World with the Internet, that they can maintain numbers.

  Even back when I was "in", in a Congo with a dozen pioneers, and very zealous Pubs. the convert from the public was a rarity.

  Now they must be, in our part of the world, as rare as Unicorns that Fart Fairy Dust.
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  Did the ransom sacrifice even work?

  by Sharpie in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  shower thought entered my mind the other day... jesus christ.

  as per doctrine.

  is still alive in heaven right now correct?

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  The concept of a "Ransom Sacrifice" as presented by JW/WT is not Biblical.

  They have to really twist scriptures, and put bits together from different Bible Books, and then weave in some Augustine of Hippo thinking.
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  Jehovah's Witnesses in the news....UK Ex JW Celebrity to host new documentary on JWs.

  by Balaamsass2 in

  1. watchtower
  2. scandals

  rebekah vardy hosting a new documentary.

  "rebekah vardy reinventing herself as a documentary host after wagatha christie ordeal.

  the mum-of-five, who is married to football star jamie vardy, is reported to be turning her hand to documentary making and will soon film a show about jehovah’s witnesses.

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  "The star will travel across the UK to meet and interview members of Britain’s Jehovah’s Witness community - meeting those who follow and used to follow the religion."

  Should be interesting, and more of the public will get an insight into the Org. from this, even if the series may fall a bit short of what we would like to see perhaps !

  I wonder if the J.W's will be "encouraged" not to watch this ? I do hope so, that usually ensures many more of 'em watch it ! especially the younger ones.
  
  
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  Can a Church Lie Intentionally? Yes.

  by peacefulpete in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  a very recent case i mentioned briefly in another thread might be of interest to many here.

  a mormon found through the internet that her church leadership had deliberately misled members regarding the origin of the book of mormon and engaged in historical revisioning.

  she sued for damages for the lifelong tithing she had been deceived into giving.

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  Phizzy

  Just on the Topic title alone, a Poster elsewhere said about the GB that "They KNOW they are lying to you, but they think they HAVE to", true dat.
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  Sunday January 15 is my 76th birthday. I answer some of your questions.

  by Terry in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  happy birthday 2 me!!.

  sunday is my 76th birthday and i know that you want to know how it "feels" to have outlived my usefulness, to have lost my natural beauty (being reduced to wrinkles and flab), and constantly walking into a room not knowing why i'm there.

  you also are curious as to how i can continue to find a reason to live since none of my kids think my opinions have any possible value, most of my facebooks friends i wouldn't recognize if i tripped over them on my way into starbucks, and my monthly expenditure on bird treats exceeds u.s. spending on the military.

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  Phizzy

  Happy Birthday Terry !

  I always enjoy your contributions here, and enjoyed your summary of what it's like to be our age, I am only weeks behind you ! Well, about 150 weeks but that's still close !

  One big bonus for me in reaching this age is that I really do not give a F**K what anyone thinks ! (not that I ever did much).

  Have a great day buddy, and keep on Posting ! here's birthday Drink for you, sorry it is "virtual", Cheers !