Posts by Phizzy

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How will J.W's spin this latest Space Discovery ?
by Phizzy in
1. watchtower
2. beliefs
i wonder how j.w's, and other believers in a creator god, will spin this latest discovery to fit their model ?.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/science-environment-67950749.
Phizzy

I wonder how J.W's, and other believers in a Creator god, will spin this latest discovery to fit their model ?
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/science-environment-67950749
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JEHOVAH'S WITNESS IS TAKING SPAIN TO COURT OVER A BLOOD TRANSFUSION THAT SAVED HER LIFE
by Tahoe in
1. watchtower
2. medical
this article is behind a paywall: .

https://www.theolivepress.es/spain-news/2024/01/10/jehovahs-witness-is-taking-spain-to-court-over-a-blood-transfusion-that-saved-her-life/ .

tahoe .
Phizzy

Thank you Tahoe for kindly Posting this. Pun warning > to state the bleeding obvious, the J.W should have let matters rest, and just been grateful to be alive.
But to be objective, there is a good case here, the Judge should have been appraised of the patients wishes.
The old Cynic in me wonders if the J.W Org. has big a part in this Action, it plays in to their desire for more to die because the medical Profession will hesitate perhaps to get a Court Order in future to save a life, and worse, may even be stopped from doing so by a ECHR Judgement.
And all for a thoroughly discredited Blood Doctrine, that has been shown to be Scripturally unsupportable, unless you do as the Org. does ,take Scriptures out of context and twist what they are REALLY saying. Disgusting.
J.W. Org, The Death Cult.
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Doctrines and Bible Interpretations
by IWant2Know in
1. watchtower
2. beliefs
i would like to know if ex's and formers who are not church christians, believe that many of jws' doctrines and bible interpretations are correct, or do you feel that they aren't?

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Phizzy

"wantingtruth", that is a misnomer if ever there was one ! Your Post is a fine example of what Van and I were talking about, Eisegesis, which is an Insult to Scripture !
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A Modest proposal to solve the 1914 problem
by r51785 in
1. watchtower
2. beliefs
throughout watchtower history dates have been a problem.

the usual solution for failed prophetic dates has been to kick the can down the road.

this needs to be done with 1914. the generation that will never pass away is now 110 years old and therefore is past its useful life span.
Phizzy

Bloody Hell ! The well known Troll "Scholar" is back ! with the usual twaddle.
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Numbers
by moley in
1. watchtower
2. beliefs
are they fudging there numbers to make it seem that there’s no decrease .
Phizzy

I don't think they are fudging the numbers much, but what the numbers hide, because of increases in Non-Internet Countries, is the huge number who are leaving every year in the World that has freely available Info.
What the mere numbers do not show either of course, is the MASSIVE number of PIMOS, some of whom may not even realise yet they are in reality a PIMO !
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Doctrines and Bible Interpretations
by IWant2Know in
1. watchtower
2. beliefs
i would like to know if ex's and formers who are not church christians, believe that many of jws' doctrines and bible interpretations are correct, or do you feel that they aren't?

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Phizzy

That is as you rightly say, Eisegesis, reading in to Texts what is not there ! Exactly what the J.W Org. does, they are far from alone in this of course.
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So what happens next...
by Farmer Jim1 in
1. jw
2. friends
with what is arguably the biggest change to jw life in recent decades (the scrapping of publishers counting hours) what does this lead to?.

in my mind these are the results;.

1) a massive decrease in 'preaching hours'.
Phizzy

I can understand all that has been said,and the reasons fro the Org's moves, but all they have in reality is a Cash Flow problem, they are still quite Asset Rich, the Cash Flow problem I cannot see them solving,unless they bring in Tithing.
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Doctrines and Bible Interpretations
by IWant2Know in
1. watchtower
2. beliefs
i would like to know if ex's and formers who are not church christians, believe that many of jws' doctrines and bible interpretations are correct, or do you feel that they aren't?

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Phizzy

Interpretation of Ancient Texts is only properly done by appreciating the milieu in which the Writer lived,hence his cultural background and Theology etc. and then we can understand what was in his mind, and what was not. We need to ask too, what did he wish his readers, his contemporaries, to understand his words to mean ?
Only then can we get a real understanding, i.e by the proper use of Exegesis.
Looking at things like Ancient Texts through the wrong end of the Telescope, with a 21st Century "eye" is silly, as is making assumptions first such as the Biblical Works are the "Word of God" in some way.
The way the J.W Org. "interprets" the Bible is just plain wrong, ignorant in the extreme, and very childish and VERY silly !
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Smoking
by NotFormer in
1. watchtower
2. beliefs
is it likely to be removed from the list of disfellowshippable offences?

given that the ban on smoking 🚬 is completely unbiblical*, might they ever remove it?.

*even mainstream christianity can only come up with one verse "against" it, the one that says that the body is the temple of the holy spirit.
Phizzy

YHWH/Jehovah loved the smell of cannabis, the Priests burned it on the alter in the Temple.
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A Modest proposal to solve the 1914 problem
by r51785 in
1. watchtower
2. beliefs
throughout watchtower history dates have been a problem.

the usual solution for failed prophetic dates has been to kick the can down the road.

this needs to be done with 1914. the generation that will never pass away is now 110 years old and therefore is past its useful life span.
Phizzy

All credible moves, but still utter twaddle with regard to the last Article, the prophecies of Jesus were all supposed to have occurred, according to his words in the Gospels, within the lifetimes of those right there listening to his words !
To look for a fulfillment of a prophecy that has already failed in one major feature is totally laughable.