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  What exactly IS 1914 these days?

  by Halcon in

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  2. beliefs

  it's no longer a year tying to the present (the old pre-1995 generation belief).

  realistically, that's the only reason why it mattered.

  and if it doesn't really matter what it is anymore, why would jw not do away with it?.

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  Phizzy

  It, the 1914 rubbish, is still an Albatross around their necks, no doubt the only way they can deal with this is to let the details of their laughable, in fact quite mad, 1914 Doctrine fade, as they did with 1925 and 1975.

  But it will still be problematic, they tried to bolster it in quite recent times, and going on about "the "End" is SO near" has no power without any way to "prove" we are living in the "End Times", which of course cannot be backed by Scripture without using Eisegesis and the blatant, quite shameless, taking of Scriptures entirely out of context.
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  NOT on JW.org.: Author Jodie Chapman on growing up as a Jehovah’s Witness

  by Balaamsass2 in

  1. watchtower
  2. child-abuse

  does anything sound familiar?

  ‘fiction opened my eyes’: author jodie chapman on growing up as a jehovah’s witness.

  this article is more than 1 month old.

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  Phizzy

  Jodie is an exceptional and very talented Writer, but one the World would have lost had she remained in the Cult.

  I thoroughly recommend reading her first two Books, they are unforgettable and very moving, her first taught me about the intensity and nature of Love ,something I knew and have experienced of course, but her Book made me have a deeper understanding.

  Her second makes the characters unforgettable, and likeable, Of course we as XJW's will be familiar with all the travails her characters go through, and the accompanying emotions, but one Reviewer at least seems to think everything she writes is imagined, rather than from her life experience. Which just shows what a weird Cult the J.W org. is!

  Her third book is to be published soon.
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  Norway

  by St George of England in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  so the wt society is going to contest the recent norway ruling.. jehovah’s witnesses to appeal unconstitutional ruling in norway (jw.org).

  their true colours are shown in the statement: "the decision to deregister jehovah’s witnesses denies us the financial aid and other benefits that the government provides to over 700 registered religious communities in the country.

  additional consequences include losing the right to appoint and authorize ministers of jehovah’s witnesses as officiants for weddings.".

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  Phizzy

  Well, I hope they deservedly FAIL ! a mere cosmetic change does not comply with Human Rights.
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  Norway

  by St George of England in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  so the wt society is going to contest the recent norway ruling.. jehovah’s witnesses to appeal unconstitutional ruling in norway (jw.org).

  their true colours are shown in the statement: "the decision to deregister jehovah’s witnesses denies us the financial aid and other benefits that the government provides to over 700 registered religious communities in the country.

  additional consequences include losing the right to appoint and authorize ministers of jehovah’s witnesses as officiants for weddings.".

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  Phizzy

  " Sounds like a thoughtful decision to me."

  It is, and is line with many Court's views that Human Rights always overrule religious rules and practice.

  Something the G.B needs to get in to their thick heads.
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  This verses will get you disfellowshipped in 2024

  by raymond frantz in

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  2. beliefs

  https://youtu.be/cefnvubzxce?si=edha3qmax4fxlwqq.

  everyone who pushes ahead and does not remain in the teaching of the christ does not have god.

  the one who does remain in this teaching is the one who has both the father and the son.

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  Phizzy

  The Presbyter John in the Epistles is not talking of people who go against what Jesus himself taught, but those who deny that Jesus was in any way human, there were a lot of Docetic Christians around, even in the Congregations John writes to.

  "For many deceivers are entered into the world, who confess not that Jesus Christ is come in the flesh." This establishes that, from the time the Epistle was first written, there were those who had Docetic Christologies, believing that the apparently human person of Jesus was actually pure spirit or not even come at all !

  Now, teaching THAT Docetic view of the Christ is ALL that the Epistles of John could justify a person being D.F'd for, without reading in to the Scriptures what is NOT there, a favourite trick of JW Org.

  I doubt anyone has ever been D.F'd from the Org. for teaching that !
  
  
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  Inaccuracies regarding pagan origins

  by AEnEm in

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  2. beliefs

  easter and christmas have pagan origins.

  many of us were told that since birth.

  the evidence?

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  Phizzy

  " Jeezus, go back far enough in history, and pretty much everything has “pagan” origins."

  Absolutely ! and the Org. has always cherry picked which Pagan Origins it chooses to ignore.

  Even Passover itself has its roots in Canaanite Religion, and was practiced by the Israelites before YHWH entered their religious thought, and hence the Pantheon of gods they worshipped at the time.

  "Passover" is a total Fiction, as is the whole "Exile" Story.

  So, Jesus was celebrating something with Pagan Roots, and the "Memorial" does the same !
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  Norway

  by St George of England in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  so the wt society is going to contest the recent norway ruling.. jehovah’s witnesses to appeal unconstitutional ruling in norway (jw.org).

  their true colours are shown in the statement: "the decision to deregister jehovah’s witnesses denies us the financial aid and other benefits that the government provides to over 700 registered religious communities in the country.

  additional consequences include losing the right to appoint and authorize ministers of jehovah’s witnesses as officiants for weddings.".

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  Phizzy

  I am not sure they will be stupid enough, if they lose this appeal ,to take the case to the ECJ, but I DO hope they are !

  But the danger is that when considering going to the ECJ they may actually pay for some decent legal advice and be advised of the ramifications of losing in the ECJ.

  But their incredible arrogance and stupidity may combine and prompt them to do so, oh I do hope so !
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  Funny Money

  by peacefulpete in

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  2. bible

  i ran across this piece of history again and thought i'd share it before i forget it again.

  we discussed the story in mark featuring the image of caesar on a coin as setup for the famous line, "give caesar's things to caesar...".

  the writer was apparently unaware that the roman coinage circulating in judea did not have the usual image of caesar but rather depicted barley or palms and such and was often minted in judea.

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  Phizzy

  Thanks PP, I had come across some of this before, I cannot recall where, but whoever wrote the piece did not give as fulsome an expalanation as you have.

  I still think the Marcan coin story is a good one ! quite clever, in it Jesus has to ask for a coin, suggesting his mendicant nature yes, but also that he would not choose to carry such a dirty idolatrous thing. And the "Pay Caesar's things to Caesar..... " line is good !

  But the Writer of Mark was producing Fiction, not historical fact obviously. I do wonder what actual Coin he visualised in his mind, but any of the time would do it seems. If he wrote in Rome or vicinity he may have been thinking of a coin he was more familiar with perhaps.
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  The TWO new things to come this year for J.W Org !

  by Phizzy in

  1. watchtower
  2. medical

  while having my first strong black coffee of the day, i was thinking about what may be to come next as the org.

  rapidly goes mainstream, and this is what i came up with :.

  1) they will introduce for sunday, the after meeting fellowship, a time for just chatting but with the added bonus of coffee and snacks.

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  Phizzy

  " sod the after meeting coffee--lets have a licensed bar!

  like a private members club--cheap booze ".

  I actually suggested this, tongue in cheek, about three decades ago, because a lot did stay on after the Sunday Meeting, and even the Mid-week one. A lot of those who did not stay on, went home first, then met a bunch of us down the Pub.
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  The TWO new things to come this year for J.W Org !

  by Phizzy in

  1. watchtower
  2. medical

  while having my first strong black coffee of the day, i was thinking about what may be to come next as the org.

  rapidly goes mainstream, and this is what i came up with :.

  1) they will introduce for sunday, the after meeting fellowship, a time for just chatting but with the added bonus of coffee and snacks.

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  Phizzy

  Yup, a Club I belong to does that when we have a "pooled" meal, there is always lots too much food, so they could combine the Fellowship meal , which they will claim is based on the N.T "Love feasts", with the left-overs being a bit of a Food Bank.