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  The fading of a well known American religion. Could this happen someday to Jehovah's Witnesses?

  by Balaamsass2 in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  new york times 9/5/24.

  " there are only two shakers left.

  they've still got utopia in their sites.. "by jordan kisner.

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  Phizzy

  One day the last J.W will look sadly out of the window of their Care Home and think " I thought the New System would be here by now".
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  Would you be able to survive a three day Assembly?

  by RULES & REGULATIONS in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  the last assembly i attended was over 10 years ago.

  the monotone speakers, boring talks, uncomfortable seats, long prayers and nodding off after the lunch break did me in.

  i survived the morning sessions, but the afternoon sessions were brutal.

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  Phizzy

  When I was just waking up, mid-2007, I decided not to go to the three day bum-number and bore fest.

  My wife was happy, she had hated them for years. So the 2006 one was our last.

  We left,for good, a few months later.

  So, for 17 years I have been convinced I would not survive a three day J.W Convention/Assembly !

  I do not know how PIMOS do it, attend the whole thing. Even back then, many PIMOS used to only turn up for the weekend days, or just the Sunday. One guy, quite a character, used to turn up for a while some days, and then disappear. He always went and did his Work first ! he had a Cleaning Company.

  One lovely girl told me years later, she always used to go down the local cafe, have a coffee, and a smoke. Then go for a walk, each day.

  When we missed that first one NOBODY NOTICED ! They just assumed we were there ! We had many of our JW family, and also members of our Congregation present there of course.

  Maybe something for PIMOS to think about !
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  Where's Simon?

  by nicolaou in

  1. watchtower
  2. scandals

  anyone heard from him?

  he hasn't been active for over a week.

  probably on holiday but would be nice to know everything's okay 🤔 .

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  Phizzy

  "The report of my death was an exaggeration". Samuel Clemens (Mark Twain).
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  "We're in the last days!"

  by BoogerMan in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  not just jw's, but countless others (evangelicals etc.

  ) are claiming that we're in the "last days.".

  but........bible students/jw's have been spouting this fake message since the 19th century!!!!!!.

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  Phizzy

  Old Phizzy, as DOC says, is very aware of his mortality, but being an atheist, I am not bothered by the thought of it, as theists, and J.W's are strangely, they seem to fear death.

  O.K, I'm hoping I have a few more years left perhaps, and as "only the good die young" I should make it to 120, being such a wicked old bastard.

  What a way to live your life though ! as J.W's do ! in fear of Armageddon, afraid to leave the Org. in case they "do not make it", so living a life that is not their own, until they die. All for nothing.

  I will die, one day, the World will go on, as usual, but the J.W Org. will wither and die, not so very long after I am Pushing up the Daisies.

  These are indeed my Last Days, but I enjoy every one of them, I do what I bloody well like, and like what I bloody well do !

  I was never truly happy, in a deep lasting way, ever in my life, until I left the Org. and its constant Doom and Gloom, with the Carrot on a Stick of some fanciful deluded idea of "Paradise".
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  First Church Service at 55 years Old

  by SouthCentral in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  i went to a christening at a church today, a black church.

  it was an incredible experience!!

  women were an active part of the service, and the people were very welcoming.

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  Phizzy

  My wife and me went to a number of Services in different denomination Churches when we first left, we were invited for a number of reasons by friends who attended those Churches.

  By that time we were both atheists, and went out of respect for friends. It was noteworthy to us that a friendly welcome was given to us, though strangers, in each, and it seemed genuine and warm, whereas in a J.W K.H there was a forced friendliness and a wariness, "Who are these "worldly people" ? ".

  One independent Church we went to, twice, the building had been a traditional Church of England Parish Church, but had been taken over by a group of local Christians, and was run by a wonderful guy, who was a great speaker. The content of his "Sermons" was always about practical Christian living, how we could help each other, AND the wider community, even people in need overseas.

  The welcome there was the warmest we had received. It was a vibrant community of Christians, mostly families, nobody dressed up as we J.W's were expected to do back then, I was the only guy wearing a Tie ! even the Preacher had an open necked shirt, the older kids all sat together.

  If we had been of a mind to join a Church, that would have been our choice. I even liked the Christian Band that sung and played, what an Atmos !

  This is what the Org. seems to be aiming for, but what they will never be able to do is fake sincerity.
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  Where Adam and Eve Vegan/Vegetarian?

  by KerryKing in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  jws seem to firmly believe that before the flood mankind eas vegan or at least vegetarian.. however, in gen 1:24,25 it says that god created livestock (domestic animals) and beasts of the eart (wild beasts).. why would adam and eve need livestock if they were vegan and naked?

  wouldn't need wool or hide for clothing, nor meat for food.

  possibly for dairy products only?

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  Phizzy

  Of more interest to me is the answer to the question " Is a Vegan Burger made up of whole Vegans ? ".
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  "We're in the last days!"

  by BoogerMan in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  not just jw's, but countless others (evangelicals etc.

  ) are claiming that we're in the "last days.".

  but........bible students/jw's have been spouting this fake message since the 19th century!!!!!!.

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  Phizzy

  Every Bible Writer maintained his predictions would be fulfilled shortly after the time he wrote his words. They were not.

  There are no Bible predictions to be fulfilled, those predictions have already failed.

  There are no "last days " , unless mankind does not solve the Climate Crisis.
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  Cedar Point Ohio 🙄🙄🤦🏻‍♂️

  by xaminewt in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  i started doubting the organization when i was 15. i spent the next 12 years doing in-depth research involving numerous emails with bible scholars and scientists.

  i finally left the organisation 3 years ago.

  technically i was never actually a jw as i was never baptised, so i’m not being shunned.

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  Phizzy

  I rejected the Cedar Point Ohio nonsense, when I was in my late teens , in the late 1960's.

  I simply could not believe that a Bible Prophecy would be fulfilled in Rutherford and a few followers holding some small Convention, unnoticed by the World.

  Sadly I went no further, and did not question properly the 1914 thing until many decades later, I do remember my mother telling me about the Ray Franz thing, 1981 ? and saying "They are saying they do not believe in 1914 !". I recall thinking at the time, "I'm not sure I do either", but still went no further then.

  It was years later that I sat down and thought " I'll read the Book of Daniel today, as though I've never read it before, and without W.T. "Spectacles" on ", of course from then on the 1914 thing was blown out of the water, entirely, I researched some more, and shortly after walked away for good. The whole House of Cards that is their unique teachings fell down, just using the Bible,and what it REALLY said !

  I was a Lover of Truth, and could no longer associate with a "religion" which taught Lies.
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  PIMO or FIMO

  by bamse in

  1. forum
  2. suggestions

  i think we need another designation.

  what about fimo for formally in mentally out when you are not removed, but do not attend meetings etc.

  then pimo can mean one who dabble with, attend some meetings, but are mentally out.

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  Phizzy

  Good idea ! I love a bit of shorthand !
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  Apostates are still public enemy number one - WATCHTOWER August 2024

  by raymond frantz in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  https://youtu.be/rqyqibpnuos?si=zayoa2c-zvmj9_br.

  under the theme "help for those who are removed from the congregation" study article 35 in august 2024 wafchtower that deals with the many changes the organization introduced recenly we specifically look into paragraphs 14 and 15 that deal with the way that we now treat disfellowshipped ones, or more accurately removed ones , since this is the new term.

  and see how they still try to micromanage their members down to the finest detail and how still apostates and more accurately active apostates are public enemy number one.

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  Phizzy

  The kind of " Apostate" you describe is the one most feared by the Org.

  Because such a person does not SAY anything they can condemn, but just by leading a happy and successful, and hopefully fulfilled life, it gives the lie to all the G.B says about those who leave, without saying a word !

  The Org, will try to counter this, by actually identifying them as Apostates, using a correct definition of the word, i.e they have "Stood away from formerly held beliefs".

  We of the "Faded Class" will merely smile at their desperation, and Keep Calm and Carry On !