Posts by Phizzy

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Half hearted JWs compared to past generations

by JohnR1975 in

is it just me or has there been a massive change in jws of late?.

when i grew up in the cult they had a real sense of urgency and would do an hour minimum, these days it’s not even ten mins before coffee break.. same goes for everything else, it’s half hearted .

Phizzy

When I first left, almost two decades ago, I used to hope I would live to see the complete demise of the Evil J.W Org. I then went through a period where I was sure they would limp on for many a decade, and their final demise would happen long after I was gone.

That may well be the case, especially as I am now in my mid-70's. but a downward spiral like the one they are now in is the sort of thing that speeds up, so who knows ? The Org. has long been making it plain that they have a Cash Flow problem , yes, they are still Asset Rich, but they have sold off so much there is a point where what little they get in by further sales is insufficient to give sufficient Cash Flow.

Many a Corporation has jogged along for a while like that, and then Bang, they have to go Bust.

The first thing I did as I began to wake up, over two years before I finally walked away, was to stop my Monthly Donation. I wonder how many have now done that ? or have not increased what they donate for a long time ?

With the lack of enthusiasm and belief in the younger ones, can you see them continuing to put their hands in their pockets and donate anything significant ?

With half-hearted members being now the majority, being joined by former Enthusiasts who wake up a bit at least, from being merely Moribund, the Org. is now Terminally ill, and the Prognosis does not give it so very long !

GOOD !

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Who is the Audience

by peacefulpete in

stumbled upon another small observation today and for some reason i've been in a sharing mood.

lol.

compare the synoptic variations of this pericope.

Phizzy

" none of them were "independent witnesses". And none were eyewitnesses, of course, as the events and persons, including the "Jesus" Figure, are all Fictional in the Gospel of Mark, a Work of Fiction. A Work that is just a Fictional as the one about Apollonius of Tyana.

Thanks for posting PP, it is interesting to see the process at work of adding to the the first Story, and deliberately changing it.

This is a process that started as soon as Genesis was written, and carries on all the way through to "Revelation".

A constant process of Editing, Redacting , inserting many Interpolations etc.

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New Zealand: Supreme Court dismisses Jehovah's Witnesses' final appeal for Abuse in Care exemption

by AndersonsInfo in

https://www.rnz.co.nz/news/national/528110/supreme-court-dismisses-jehovah-s-witnesses-final-appeal-for-abuse-in-care-exemption.

1:10 pm on 16 september 2024 .

anusha bradley, investigative reporter.

Phizzy

" They don't know what conclusion it reached"

The wilful Ignorance of the Many is a source of great sadness to me, especially that of the J.W's, who have allowed their Minds to be Controlled so that they are afraid to find out the Truth of matters.

But for the few J.W's who DO just make a few clicks with their Mouse to find out about the terrible J.W Org CSA Scandal, it is a HUGE Wake Up Call !

Thank you Barbara, for all your work over so many years, and for continuing to keep us informed.

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Sorcery = Pharmakeia

by KerryKing in

rev18:23 '....you deceived the nations with your sorceries'.. the interlinear for sorceries reads pharmakeia.. bible hub has some interesting definitions, i'll try to share screenshots below.

the gist of it is that sorcery involves drugs/medicines/poisons, with or without spells, sorcery is not the same as witchcraft or divination, or white/black magic.

i have long wondered about the connection between the medical/pharmaceutical industry's symbol of the serpent wrapped around a pole/stake, and the use of the word pharmaceuticals/pharmacy.. considering the common use of fluoride in public drinking water, nsaids with side effects such as depression, brain fog, dizziness, and opioids, mrna gene therapy, vaccines and so on, i wonder am i going mad, are these all coincidences??

Phizzy

The linguistic link between matters "spiritual" i.e "pharmakeia"" and Sorcery as P.P. points out is no surprise, but what the G.B & Co ignore, or perhaps do not know, is that the Israelites and later the Jews, right down until Roman Occupation times at least, and maybe until 70 C.E ??? burned Cannabis on the Altar at Temples dedicated to the worship of YHWH/Jehovah.

This was done so that the worshippers would have a spiritual experience which they would feel came from the presence of Yahweh.

So can we expect this sometime soon in a G.B, letter ? :

" After careful study, and prayerful consideration of the matter, in the light of Jehovah's evident approval of this practice, the Holy Spirit has guided us to decide that the smoking of cannabis is permitted by you dear brothers, as long as this is done at a time of Worship".

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TO ALL BODIES OF ELDERS "Handling Cases of Drug Abuse" September 1, 2018

by Not_Culty in

https://jwglossary.blogspot.com/2018/09/to-all-bodies-of-elders-handling-cases.html.

to all bodies of elders "handling cases of drug abuse".

september 1, 2018. to all bodies of elders re: handling cases of drug abusedear brothers: as noted below, the procedure for handling the misuse of marijuana and the abuse of medi- cal, illicit, or addictive drugs has been adjusted to harmonize with the procedure for handling the misuse of tobacco.

Phizzy

I bet the GB & Co. probably don't know, or are ignoring, that the Israelites, and later the Jews burned Cannabis on the Altar of the Temple so as to get the worshippers to feel an experience they would ascribe as coming from Jehovah.

What you will never see or hear from the G.B. &Co :

"So on the basis of this clear Scriptural principle brothers, we have decided not to proscribe the smoking of Cannabis in the Kingdom Hall during times of Worship".

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2nd Isaiah 49:6

by peacefulpete in

6 and he said, it is too small a thing that thou shouldest be servant to me to raise up the sons of jacob, and to bring back the netzurei yisroel (preserved of israel,); i will also give thee for ohr goyim, that thou mayest be my yeshuah unto the ketzeh ha’aretz.. 2nd isaiah, actually an anonymous prophet at the time of cyrus, did his best to inspire and hearten his fellow countrymen.

many judahites had lost hope and even lost faith.

the explanations offered by previous prophets, namely that their own sins had resulted in their situation, were not adequate nor convincing.

Phizzy

Thanks for bringing back to the top some of your very erudite and educational Threads P.P.

I am enjoying reading them again, and for people they are new to, they must be a Revelation !

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Movies about JWs

by HowTheBibleWasCreated in

i have seen many movies or shows that make a passing reference to jehovah's witnesses but very few dwell on jws.

some like a deadly devotion episode i saw once tells a true story but the portal of jws is all wrong.

by movies i am not talking of documentaries.

Phizzy

I just wonder if some of the excellent Novels that some XJW's have written may attract a movie maker one day soon, like the ones by Jodie Chapman and Ali Miller.

Ali's latest does not feature J.W's at all, Jodie's 1st two did, I'm rather hoping that like Ali, she gets away from using the J.W org. as a backdrop, I'm sure her future novels will be even better if she does.

The problem for Movie makers like Daniel who made "Apostasy" is conveying how weird it is to be in the Bubble of the Org. he did a good job though, I heard the audience gasp and say "Disgusting" at what the Elders did to the heroine and her mum. And they laughed at other nonsense, like "Armageddon is coming soon" or something similar.

I wonder how J.W's felt being in a Cinema Audience watching, and hearing what the general Public think of their crazy Religion !

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The fading of a well known American religion. Could this happen someday to Jehovah's Witnesses?

by Balaamsass2 in

new york times 9/5/24.

" there are only two shakers left.

they've still got utopia in their sites.. "by jordan kisner.

Phizzy

One day the last J.W will look sadly out of the window of their Care Home and think " I thought the New System would be here by now".

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Would you be able to survive a three day Assembly?

by RULES & REGULATIONS in

the last assembly i attended was over 10 years ago.

the monotone speakers, boring talks, uncomfortable seats, long prayers and nodding off after the lunch break did me in.

i survived the morning sessions, but the afternoon sessions were brutal.

Phizzy

When I was just waking up, mid-2007, I decided not to go to the three day bum-number and bore fest.

My wife was happy, she had hated them for years. So the 2006 one was our last.

We left,for good, a few months later.

So, for 17 years I have been convinced I would not survive a three day J.W Convention/Assembly !

I do not know how PIMOS do it, attend the whole thing. Even back then, many PIMOS used to only turn up for the weekend days, or just the Sunday. One guy, quite a character, used to turn up for a while some days, and then disappear. He always went and did his Work first ! he had a Cleaning Company.

One lovely girl told me years later, she always used to go down the local cafe, have a coffee, and a smoke. Then go for a walk, each day.

When we missed that first one NOBODY NOTICED ! They just assumed we were there ! We had many of our JW family, and also members of our Congregation present there of course.

Maybe something for PIMOS to think about !

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Where's Simon?

by nicolaou in

anyone heard from him?

he hasn't been active for over a week.

probably on holiday but would be nice to know everything's okay 🤔 .

Phizzy

"The report of my death was an exaggeration". Samuel Clemens (Mark Twain).