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  Chance or intelligent design?

  by ExBethelitenowPIMA in

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  cofty could you answer how the single cell came about by chance?.

  i know the argument for complexity in nature says natural selection over billions of years but this could not explain the complexity of the single cell the building blocks of life?.

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  Phizzy

  "If something was possible by chance then it would be possible in lab?"

  By chance ?
  
  
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  1975 on the back burner

  by Fisherman in

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  “1975” still marks 6000 years from the creation of adam in wt calendar.

  according to “all scriptures inspired” book, there is a gap between the creation of adam and the creation of eve and her marriage to adam.

  it was at that point in time when eve was created that marked the end of the 6th creative day and the beginning of god’s rest, the 7th day as recorded in genesis.

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  Phizzy

  My aged memory may be faulty, but did they back-track on the 7,000 year long "Creative days" once, and say those days were of indeterminate length, or am I confusing them with something I have read from a slightly more rational source than J W org ?

  As Jeffro rightly points out, it is all nonsense when you look at the literary origin of the Eden Story. And as Jeffro has ably shown many times, the 1914 thing is the most utter, monumental, nonsense.
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  Mass Shooting at Kingdom Hall in Hamburg, Germany

  by EdenOne in

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  mass shooting at a kingdom hall in hamburg, germany this evening.

  at least 6 or 7 killed, dozens injured.

  single shooter on the run, police doesn't rule out more shooters.

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  Phizzy

  https://www.france24.com/en/europe/20230310-eight-dead-in-shooting-at-jehovah-s-witness-hall-in-german-city-of-hamburg
  
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  "Mankind's Search for God" book

  by My Name is of No Consequence in

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  this book was published around 1990, but was never studied (to my knowledge).

  does anyone know the reason why?.

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  Phizzy

  If that Book is the one that gives a Thumbnail sketch of many religions, we did study it at the Tuesday group study, held in private homes. Prove me wrong.
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  Breaking News: Anthony Morris III no longer serving on the Governing Body

  by WingCommander in

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  this has been announced on the jw's official website, in the "jw news" section.

  this is not a joke.

  anthony moron da turd is out as a gluttonous body member!

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  Phizzy

  Cirrhosis of the Liver ?
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  Details of Noah’s Ark

  by enigma1863 in

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  jw magazines have claimed the flood story has so much detail that it couldn’t be just a made up story.. is it detailed?

  name one person outside of noah’s family.

  name one nephilim.

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  Phizzy

  " the author gave no thought to the seaworthiness of the vessel, and pictured a box to keep valuables in."

  The Author no doubt did not have the necessary knowledge about sea-worthiness, I read a long article by an Engineer who showed that regardless of the shape of the vessel, the mere size would put such stresses upon the support beams within, that the boat would have sunk within hours, even in a slight swell !

  Your second point is pertinent too, the Story is not unrelated to the Ark of the Covenant stories.

  Our old friend Leolaia also showed in one of her wonderful threads that the whole Noah Story is an Interpolation. So, even those who threw Genesis together were aware it was not in any way History, so we cannot expect the details to be accurate in any way.
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  Prediction of Watchtower in a Few Years

  by Foolednomore in

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  kingdom halls will be the thing of the past.. conventions (mini assembly halls will still be going on) but will charge for attending and parking and always a donation.

  elders will play a much smaller role since csa.

  cart preaching will replace door to door.

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  Phizzy

  " A multi-billion dollar company has all kinds of things at it's disposal."

  Very true ! not least is their manipulation of tax free and Charitable status.

  It is still my fervent hope that I see them at least shrivel to the point where JW family and old friends are awakened enough to examine the org. and wake up.

  But the years are rolling along very fast. I shall watch what happens with great interest, there must come a very real "Gladwell Tipping Point" , then a real decline, hopefully before my demise.
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  Could the law abiding Jesus or his disciples have used a coin depicting Caesar?

  by EdenOne in

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  so, i was just viewing an interview with professor yonathan adler regarding the origins of judaism as an everyday practice of the masses.

  he makes a very convincing argument that the jews only became torah observants in a generalized way around the beginning of the hasmonean dynasty, between the 3rd and 2nd centuries bc.

  you can watch the interview here:.

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  Phizzy

  I don't think the Writer of "Mark" was at all worried about historical accuracy, throughout his Work,and may well have known his little story about Jesus confounding the Pharisees with his clever ploy with the coin was inaccurate, but it IS a good Story.

  I wonder if the Writer of "Mark" was most motivated by the desire to write entertainment, more than he was by the desire to Evangelise.
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  Being embarrassed by a JW when you were a JW

  by punkofnice in

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  2. experiences

  i was out on the ministry(tm) in the 1980's when i was pie-on-earring.

  i was only a lowly publisher(tm) being coached by a rather odd elder(tm).. one of the publications(tm) had recently mentioned japan and the growth(tm) of jws there.. the elder(tm), brother(tm) i was with offered the magazines(tm) to the householder(tm).. then he stated, 'there are (gave the reported numbers at the time.

  i can't remember the number he stated), jehovah's witnesses(tm) in japan.'.

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  Phizzy

  Carla said : ".......at a dinner function (non religious) yet they have someone say a generic prayer and my jw is looking all around trying very hard to make sure people can see he is not participating in anyway. Funny thing is most people have no clue he is a jw and think he is an atheist or something. lol"

  This is an example of JW needing to be seen to be towing the line. In such a situation when I was a JW, I respectfully bowed my head, and looked at the floor, why not ? Why be SO rude ?

  I do hope he wakes up one day soon.
  
  
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  JWs mental health

  by Hellothere in

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  do they have any kind of mental health arrangements at bethel?

  i mean to help jws with mental problems.

  like a psychiatric.

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  Phizzy

  " and really uncover the root of their depression."

  My Therapist pretty soon got to the root of my suicidal depression, it was the Religion! nothing else, that won't surprise any of you, but as a just exited JW at the time I was surprised there wasn't at least one other reason, but she was right of course.

  No tame JW Psychiatrist would ever identify the religion itself as the problem, hence a person like I was would probably top themselves, not having received proper help when they were at their lowest.

  "Jehovah's loving organisation" ? It just isn't. If they provide a Psychiatrist it is so they can say they did all they can, its always about the $$$.