" Better an end with horror than a horror without end " a good phrase ! And one that describes my attitude when I walked away. I did not know what would happen, but knew I could not endure being a J.W anymore.
Posts by Phizzy
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Fading is better then completely leaving...comments?
by Witness 007 ini got the internet in my house and realised it's all lies....but as a pioneer/ministerial servant i chose to fade.
see i had family and friends who were fully strict witnesses.
so i played the poor lost soul brother who is not sure what's happening.
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Phizzy
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Now the Baptist Church is waking up to the Watchtower's scandals
by raymond frantz inhttps://www.jwupdates.com/post/jehovah-s-witnesses-sue-norway-after-registration-revoked.
the following article appeared on baptist standard's online edition in january 18, 2024. other christian denominations are starting to pay attention to the legal cases against the watchtower and write about it.
like the watchtower did in yester years with catholic csa cases.. oslo district court in norway is home to an ongoing trial after norway deregistered the jehovah’s witnesses last year.
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Phizzy
The "sheer desperation" of that claim, "Religious Texts" FFS, is laughable, and will be rightly ignored when it comes to matters of Policy and Practice, such material is vital and very relevant Evidence, which the Court has to consider before making a Ruling.
I shall watch this further debacle for the org. unfold !
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Phizzy
One lad I knew came home for a visit to his parents, and said to me in a disappointed voice "There is nothing Spiritual in Bethel ", how different from how J.W's imagine life in Bethel to be !
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Looking for Watchtower Quotations
by Vanderhoven7 inthis thread could be used regularly for people looking for specific quotations from watchtower literature.. right now i'm looking for a quotation which says it is the duty of clergy to point out errors in wt messages.. there is also one which says that religions which claim to offer salvation to millions should allow scrutiny..
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Phizzy
" should be willing to submit to scrutiny and criticism. " Except J.W's they think and act, because they "have the truth".......... in their uneducated minds.
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Fading is better then completely leaving...comments?
by Witness 007 ini got the internet in my house and realised it's all lies....but as a pioneer/ministerial servant i chose to fade.
see i had family and friends who were fully strict witnesses.
so i played the poor lost soul brother who is not sure what's happening.
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Phizzy
" so I am wondering if it is more difficult to leave/fade if you are a high hour publisher vs low hour, MS or elder vs rank and file..."
I wondered how difficult it would be when I just walked away. I was a MS, a high genuine hours Pub. and from a very well known JW family, with JW connections back to the early 1900's.
It was surprisingly easy ! I heard nothing for six months ! despite being not only all of the above, but the very best meeting Attender in my Congregation, always there.
I got the two Elder visit, which they claimed was a "Shepherding call", no Shepherding went on, they just tried to find a way to DF me !
I swatted their pathetic attempts aside, as I did on the second and last occasion. Good luck to anyone "leaving", even if it is only in their mind and not physically so much for now.
Be prepared, forearmed, and then enjoy Freedom of Mind !
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Fading is better then completely leaving...comments?
by Witness 007 ini got the internet in my house and realised it's all lies....but as a pioneer/ministerial servant i chose to fade.
see i had family and friends who were fully strict witnesses.
so i played the poor lost soul brother who is not sure what's happening.
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Phizzy
" do you expect to come out unscathed? " I don't think anyone sticking with staying in the Org. now will.
I was embarrassed all those years ago when I left to think that many people knew I had been a J.W. Now, as all the Scandal comes out, and the evidence of JW Org being a nasty , controlling cult, that damages people, anyone associated with them for much longer will be looked upon as a Pariah.
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Derek Ohare was murdered. R.I.P dear friend
by Newly Enlightened inhttps://youtu.be/667n4uwbk4e?si=1dvek-qfw7ebf9up.
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Phizzy
Found this, also on Kentonline, not sure of the date of this Article :
"This morning, Ajay Porter, made his first appearance at Maidstone Crown Court, charged with his murder.
Porter, 36, of Oswold Road, Dover, spoke only twice to confirm his name and to tell Judge Julian Smith he understood the proceedings.
Defence barrister Danny Moore said there would be no application for bail at this time and no plea was indicated.
Porter, also charged with possession of a bladed article in a public place, is next due at Maidstone Crown Court on March 4, where he is expected to enter pleas."
R.I.P Derek. If you only started one or two on the Road to Freedom , you did a great thing. What a tragic end to a life that should not have ended for years. Derek will not be forgotten, and his work goes on.
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Did Jesus Die On a Stake or a Cross?
by Sea Breeze indominic enyart exposes watchtower deception regarding their demonization of the cross.
information packed.
interesting take on paganism as well.
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Phizzy
" Not that any of this really matters. " Exactly, though I have enjoyed the discussions on this, especially the erudite contributions from those like Leolaia, none of this is relevant if no one can prove that "Jesus" ever existed.
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Is there “new light” on 1914?
by wallsofjericho ini’m hearing paraphrasing like “we just don’t know” .
is this regarding 1914?
or micheal the arch angel?.
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Phizzy
" But JWs don’t really care what the Bible actually says. " neither does "Scholar", Eisegesis as used by Scholar and the J.W's is simply NOT the way to understand what the Bible says, and is rightly dismissed and ridiculed as a method by REAL Biblical Scholars !
Thank you for your comments here Jeffro, and the excellent work you did in the past on the 1914 Tosh, all of your erudite work being confirmed by REAL Scholars from many disciplines.
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Shaking Down Satan - WT Sues Norway
by Sea Breeze ini wonder how many witnesses are aware that the wt and their team of lawyers are currently suing the government of norway for millions of dollars?
i thought that the wt taught that all the governments were run by satan.
when i was a witness, this would have really bothered me.
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Phizzy
Another Court case the org. will lose ? I certainly hope so ! and the Government of Norway are right, completely, not to fund such a terrible org. with Taxpayers money.
I presume J.W's will make a lot of spurious claims as to the nature of "Shunning", the lying bastards always do.
It will be interesting to watch this unfold !