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Italy goes after Protestant religions re taxes due

by blondie in

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https://cne.news/article/4320-small-church-in-rome-goes-to-the-big-court-in-strasbourg-to-find-justice?push=null .

the evangelical church in rome will move to strasbourg to seek justice from the european court on human rights (ecthr) to eliminate the huge tax burden.

in the meantime, protestants all over the world are amazed by what is happening in italy..

Phizzy

Thanks for Posting Blondie !

This last paragraph is interesting, but simply stating the obvious, in the European Court the Case could go either way..

" It is still quite unpredictable what the effect of bringing the case to Strasbourg will be; a few things are certain. First, it can take years before the final decision is made. Second, it is very difficult to predict the outcome. The court is very reluctant regarding cases about religion. Since the relationship between church and state is different in all 47 member states, the court tends to uphold decisions by national courts."

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WTS Loses Court fight to get RNZ inquiry report on child abuse before victims

by blondie in

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https://www.rnz.co.nz/news/in-depth/520393/jehovah-s-witnesses-lose-court-fight-to-obtain-abuse-inquiry-report-before-victims .

new zealand in depth.

24 jun 2024. jehovah's witnesses lose court fight to obtain abuse inquiry report before victims.

Phizzy

Good , the Org wants to buy time to prepare some sort of "defense" against the findings, I doubt very much they have a decent Legal defense, but they want time to prepare an obfuscating and full of half-truths Public Statement.

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Article: Jehovah's Witnesses lose court fight to obtain abuse inquiry report before victims

by Tahoe in

jehovah's witnesses have tried - and failed - to get an advance copy of the abuse in care inquiry's final report into their church.. the christian congregation of jehovah's witnesses australasia (ccjwa) filed an urgent claim in the high court in auckland on 21 june to obtain a copy of the final case study relating to the religious denomination in the inquiry's report, but the claim was dismissed.. it also unsuccessfully sought all relevant underlying documents supporting the case study.. in a separate case, the jehovah's witnesses also filed for leave to appeal to the supreme court after the court of appeal dismissed an earlier bid to avoid the scrutiny of the inquiry altogether.. rnz understands the ccjwa received and commented on a draft copy of the case study in may, but has yet to see a final draft.. if its high court claim had been successful, it could have led to the church receiving a copy before the government or abuse survivors had read the report.. jehovah's witnesses is the only religious group to take legal action against the commission.. it has taken similar action against public inquiries overseas, including in australia and the united kingdom.. in a statement, a jehovah's witnesses spokesperson said it had no choice but to go to court.. "we are in full agreement with the inquiry's objective to protect children but have serious concerns about the accuracy of the report regarding jehovah's witnesses.. "child protection is of utmost concern to jehovah's witnesses and we believe the people of new zealand, its decision-makers and most importantly survivors, deserve to be presented with accurate information.

we have no choice but to resort to court to address these issues.".

the inquiry is due to hand its final report to the governor-general on wednesday, wrapping up six years of work.. after that, it will be passed to internal affairs brooke van velden, who must table the report in parliament before it is made public.. that was expected to happen in the week beginning 22 july.. survivors of church abuse new zealand spokesperson and former jehovah's witnesses elder shayne mechen said former jehovah's witnesses members and survivors had been angered by the new court action.. "they are feeling angry and frustrated because it shows they [the church] don't care.".

Phizzy

Thanks karter,

Evidently even a K.C. finds it hard to defend the indefensible, but it shows the desperation of the Org. the fact they are employing one, they so want to whitewash the shit covered wall that is now their Public facing one, but that may well be impossible.

This sort of case may well have a "Barbara Streisand Effect", I do hope so.

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Another Sad Shunning due to homophobia by J.W's !!

by Phizzy in

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Phizzy

" Cherry picking scriptures a Christian pastime."

That was exactly my point above, where I called the Lady ? a hypocrite.

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BBC poor grammar - but FUNNY!

by BoogerMan in

"hamburg police shoot man with axe ahead of euros match.

" https://www.bbc.co.uk/news.

why don't german police just use guns?.

Phizzy

What amazes me is the BBC employs people as Broadcasters who on serious Programmes Mispronounce words ! Blimey, surely correct pronunciation is one of the minimum requirements ?

I have too many times heard "Bought" instead of "Brought", why drop the "R" ? we don't say "Bing that over here please" do we ?

The other one is "Nucular" instead of "Nuclear", but the most ironic is :

"Pronounciation" instead of, obviously, "Pronunciation".

Up your Game the Bollocks Broadcasting Corporation !

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Another Sad Shunning due to homophobia by J.W's !!

by Phizzy in

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Phizzy

" the Bible is very clear on this subject." (< that is disputed )

I bet you don't follow ALL the other things it is "very clear" on !

No, Cherry-pick to support homophobia, and ignore the rest.

Hypocrite.

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Today is Eid al-Adha

by Phizzy in

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today is eid al-adha :.

"may peace, safety, and happiness be bestowed upon you.

".

Phizzy

I hate terrorism whoever the perpetrators are, but I do not lump the whole of the membership of Islam in as terrorists, that would be a silly as saying all J.W's are Paedophiles, when only 50% of them are < Joke.

But I do recognise that Islam as a religion is the Womb that gives birth to a good number of Terrorists, and therefore I hope that before too many decades have passed it will be withering and dying in the civilised Nations.

Religion Poisons Everything.

The "Blessing" in my O.P was for you lot !

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JWN staying at the top of Google Search

by blondie in

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i noticed awhile ago jw.org was first; now jwn is back being first.

what determines that?.

Phizzy

I imagine it costs the org. to get their Culty Site to the top for a while ! The LDS Church do it as well from time to time, bloody annoying ! But wasted money I bet !

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Destroying Notes

by LevelThePlayingField in

i asked the ai gemini about destroying notes.

here’s the response:.

this scenario raises several legal and ethical concerns:.

Phizzy

This ! > " Destroying the notes is a serious issue with potential legal and ethical consequences. While the religious institution may try to shield itself from liability, the priority should be protecting the victim and ensuring justice is served."

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Another Sad Shunning due to homophobia by J.W's !!

by Phizzy in

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Phizzy

“I grew up in the countryside in rural north Cork as part of the Jehovah’s Witness community. My upbringing was very sheltered. In school I was very much a class nerd. I just put my head down and it was all about getting the best grades. It wasn’t until my college years that I really thought about [my sexuality] in any meaningful way.

There were definitely signs in my teenage years that there was something up. I had quite bad anxiety and I went through periods of depression and SAD. I was probably the last person on Earth to realise that I was gay. And then it took a few years to come to terms with that, to come out and be myself.

I was taught that if you were gay and a Jehovah’s Witness then you were celibate and you just had to accept that you were going to be single for life. It’s a tall order to make of someone and it certainly wasn’t going to work for me.

I knew my parents were going to disown me and the wider Jehovah’s community were going to do the same. And I knew, very clearly, that when the break came, it was going to be a clean break and family and friends would be lost. You lose your community when you [come out]. It’s a cruel thing that’s done. And it’s something I strongly disagree with'