Full of fascinating historical info. Vienne, thank you !
Posts by Phizzy
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bangers and cash
by stan livedeath inbangers and cash is a uk tv series about a family running a business of selling cars and car related items in an auction house.. one of family members referred to an event some time in the past with the words.
" when god was a boy ".
oi ad to larf..
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Phizzy
This has just reminded me of the Joke along similar lines, about the seeming Immortality, despite his life style, of Keith Richards of the Rolling Stones.
It goes like this : God was showing all the animals to Adam, and Adam says " They are all fantastic, but who is that old guy over there ? ", and god replies " Oh, that's Keef, I don't know who he is, but he was here when I got here ! ".
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Ebion
by peacefulpete inearly christianity was every bit, if not more, diverse than christianity today.
one of the very early sects was named the ebionites.
we have unfortunately nothing left of their own writings apart from a few quotes from what epiphanius believed was their recension of matthew.
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Phizzy
Touchofgrey, in a minute i will private message you !
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Ebion
by peacefulpete inearly christianity was every bit, if not more, diverse than christianity today.
one of the very early sects was named the ebionites.
we have unfortunately nothing left of their own writings apart from a few quotes from what epiphanius believed was their recension of matthew.
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Phizzy
Thanks PP,
I am now wondering what were the beliefs of a small group back in the 19th Century, I assume, near where I live, here in Kent U.K, they erected a small Chapel, called The Ebionite Chapel. I will try to find out !
It is now, like multiple former Chapels in the U.K, a private home.
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What are some of the more exceptional self-authenticating claims made by Jehovah’s Witnesses?
by Vanderhoven7 inlet's start the ball rolling with two connected claims.. the religion of jehovah’s witnesses is the one true religion.
all other religions are satanic, including all the churches of christendom..
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Phizzy
The most blatant self-authenticating claim, and the one that is so starkly utter nonsense, with zero support from Scripture and even common sense, is that they were appointed in 1919 as "the faithful and discreet Slave".
And hence that claim to Authority and some sort of "Hot Line to Heaven" can be claimed by today's Governing Body.
The 1919 claim relies on the long debunked 1914 nonsense, and upon claiming that Jesus chose them on the basis of what they were teaching circa 1919. As Raymond Franz said in one of his Books, that claim is " an Insult to Jesus".
A common sense reading of the Parable that the FDS comes from makes it plain it is ONLY a Parable, a Teaching Aid, a Story, and not a prophecy of any kind.
Hence the Governing Body today are :
Self-appointed Charlatans.
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GB being sued as a group and named individually in a child sexual abuse coverup.
by liam inthis is a court case filed in august 2021 by the zalkin law firm.
deborah hines vs watchtower and the governing body.. what's interesting is;.
"ny already set a precedent that an unincorporated group can be sued for its action and has specifically said this case can move forward.
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Phizzy
" My god though, what that child endured .".
The G.B and the Org. overall do not care or hardly think about the poor victims in cases like this.
So much for having " love among yourselves", they do not care enough to take the necessary action so that a child, and the adult that child becomes, does not have their whole life destroyed. Bastards !
And let's hope that the compensation awarded in this Case is HUGE !
I also hope Criminal Charges are pursued, mainly hoping that then the G.B will be forced to adopt a proper active Protection programme with appointed , trained Protection Officers present at all J.W. gatherings etc. and that the vulnerable are even properly protected in their own homes etc.
They abrogate that responsibility to the parents, some of whom who have been fooled in to being remiss in the past, a proper active system will ensure that no child or vulnerable person is alone with anyone who is not a parent at any time, they must stress to parents the absolute necessity of making sure the vulnerable are always chaperoned..
This is easily set up, so that in or around K.H's etc. nothing can happen, and not in a home or elsewhere either. Religions and even small Clubs and Associations etc. do this here in the U.K. and have done for some years now.
Why have J.W's NEVER done this ?
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GB being sued as a group and named individually in a child sexual abuse coverup.
by liam inthis is a court case filed in august 2021 by the zalkin law firm.
deborah hines vs watchtower and the governing body.. what's interesting is;.
"ny already set a precedent that an unincorporated group can be sued for its action and has specifically said this case can move forward.
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Phizzy
Great News ! AT LAST the G.B is being held accountable ! Despite all of their shenanigans to avoid accountability !
And this case WILL become generally known among J.W's.
This is really BIG !
Thanks for Posting.
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Great Vid from "Faith to Faithless" U.K about leaving.
by Phizzy inhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zmnaypn26yy.
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Phizzy
I have had no reason to use the service, but I know personally one founder member, the wonderful Terri O'Sullivan, who used to Post on here.
For decades she has helped people leaving J.W's, and then expanded to helping others leaving High Control religions, this work of hers was soon assisted by other XJW's, and eventually has become a division of Humanists U.K, and hence is under the umbrella of that esteemed Organisation.
"Faith to Faithless" is a very skilled group of fully trained people, just a phone call away, who know how to advise people on all aspects of leaving a High Control/Mind Control Group. Including the very important emotional aspects. I am sure in many instances they are a literal "Life Saver", and they can and do ease a person in to their new life of total freedom.
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Great Vid from "Faith to Faithless" U.K about leaving.
by Phizzy inhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zmnaypn26yy.
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I think I may be becoming an X-X-JW
by joe134cd ini think i may be moving on shortly.
i officially joined this web-site 12 years ago as pimo about to exit the organisation.
i had spent about a year before that, as just a none commenting member.
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Phizzy
" It seems like another lifetime ago that I have left behind."
Me too Punky ! It is also for me somewhat like looking at what happened to another guy , younger than me, in another Country !
I guess that means you, me, and others who feel like that are now Ex-XJW's ! We really have moved on !
All the best to you Buddy, are you still playing in a Band ?