Posts by Phizzy

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U.K's "Baby of the House", the youngest M.P. ex-JW Sam Carling.

by Phizzy in

i thought this admirable young man deserved a mention in a topic of its own, , especially as he has tabled three amendments to a bill going through parliament, his amendments will tighten mandatory reporting, and stop j.w's avoiding doing so !.

in his speech, being an ex j.w., he highlighted the devious way the j.w's get out of reporting abuse, and cover the whole thing up.

he also called the j.w org.

Phizzy

I thought this admirable young man deserved a mention in a Topic of its own, , especially as he has tabled three Amendments to a Bill going through Parliament, his amendments will tighten Mandatory Reporting, and stop J.W's avoiding doing so !

In his Speech, being an ex J.W., he highlighted the devious way the J.W's get out of Reporting abuse, and cover the whole thing up. He also called the J.W org. a Cult ! Bless him, tell it like it is !

Here is his Wiki page : https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sam_Carling

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202507JulyS-147EnglishGermanFrench!

by Atlantis in

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2025*07*july*s-147*english*german*french.

https://app.filemail.com/d/kbzlkjqnjhrldsz

Phizzy

Thanks !

Two observations.

Interesting this time, the command to inform the Bethel about wrongdoers who have certain positions is interesting, many of these could be seen to be employees of the J.W org.by Authorities and Courts, so this is damage limitation, to safeguard J.W wealth.

They do need Cyber Security, but by only recruiting only from those in their ranks, they may well not get the best experts in this Field, and so will still be open to attack.

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Demonic Influence While Intoxicated

by EisMe in

scripture consistently warns against intoxication, highlighting how substance abuse weakens judgment and opens individuals to spiritual deception.

while various herbs were used in biblical worship, they were only burned as incense, never smoked or ingested.

additionally, there is no historical record of marijuana being used in ceremonial worship, either in the bible or among ancient civilizations.. warnings against intoxication and loss of judgment.

Phizzy

Seeing as Demons do not exist, who cares what the Bible says, it is a collection of Books full of lies, mistakes and total nonsense.

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Video: I Am Not An Apostate . . . I Had The Courage To Think For Myself (By Exjw Danny)

by AbaddonProvesIt in

i had the courage to think for myself!

they’ll call us apostates.

but really, we just had the courage to think for ourselves.

Phizzy

Those of us who left many years ago strictly CANNOT be termed "Apostates", as we did not "stand aside" from what they currently teach.

If you left before the ludicrous "overlapping generation" twaddle for example, you spent no part of your life seemingly supporting that.

We old leavers are no more Apostates than current J.W's, who have "stood aside" from what was formerly taught, and swallowed whole the current total B.S.

The funny thing is that J.W's, under the Mind Control, simply cannot take on board the reality that we woke up and left because they are NOT teaching truth.

They make up all sorts of other reasons why you left, if like me, there was no "Sin", I did not take up a life of sin after leaving, so why did I leave ?

One hilarious rumour that went around about me was that I had left to start my own religion ! I laughed when I heard that, and said " What a great idea, there is money in that !".

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Is Belief in Jesus Enough to be Saved? Or Does it Include Believing Jesus?

by Sea Breeze in

i don't think it is possible to believe in jesus and then not believe what he said.

the purpose of the watchtower organization is to take as many people to hell as possible.

they do this by tricking people into rejecting the bare minimum requirements for the free gift of salvation that jesus offered to ”whosoever”.. one of the stipulations for salvation is belief that jesus was raised from the dead:.

Phizzy

Agreed Punky, there Paul claims " 23 for all have sinned and fall short of the glory of God, 24 and all are justified freely by his grace through the redemption that came by Christ Jesus. "

Interesting that though in his mind is obviously his idea of needing to be saved from inherited Sin, the list of Evil that he mentioned a few verses earlier, with quotes from the O.T, is of things that a morally upright person does not practice. So a reader not digging deep in to Paul's thinking may conclude " I don't need saving".

Of course Paul here and elsewhere is selling the Scam of Sin* and invented Remedy for Sin which apparently can be inherited.

* "Sin" is an offence against a god, since no gods exist, or ever did, there is of course no such thing.

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Is There Some Sort of Campaign On?

by NotFormer in

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on friday, i walked to my doctor's to pick up a couple of prescriptions*.

from there i walked in to town to the chemist's (pharmacy) to get the scripts filled.

it's winter here, and my town can get get colder than is average for my state**.

Phizzy

" I'm not sure what their business model is. To be seen, but not to be actually doing anything of substance? "

I don't really think they expect any significant number of converts to come from the carts. The old D to D work never got many, when you divide the number of hours by the number of new converts each year. And a lot of those "new" ones are kids born in getting baptized.

Both the old D to D work and the carts are designed merely to keep J.W's Busy Busy so that they feel as if they are doing something, and don't have any time to actually think about the totally evidence free nonsense they have bought in to.

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Is Belief in Jesus Enough to be Saved? Or Does it Include Believing Jesus?

by Sea Breeze in

i don't think it is possible to believe in jesus and then not believe what he said.

the purpose of the watchtower organization is to take as many people to hell as possible.

they do this by tricking people into rejecting the bare minimum requirements for the free gift of salvation that jesus offered to ”whosoever”.. one of the stipulations for salvation is belief that jesus was raised from the dead:.

Phizzy

When Christians talk about the need to be "saved", they are talking about the man made concept of Sin, which men also made up, and sold to the Gullible, a "remedy" for.

That Scam almost makes Snake Oil Salesmen look respectable !

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5 Shocking Reasons Why Elders Are Leaving The Jehovah’s Witnesses — The Hidden Truth!

by Golden4Altar in

5 shocking reasons why elders are leaving the jehovah’s witnesses — the hidden truth!

(kingdom wisdom).

thousands of jehovah’s witness elders around the world are stepping down… and no one is talking about it.

Phizzy

I have read comments on other Sites by active fully believing J.W's who deny there is a steady stream of people leaving. They really are SO Mind Controlled !

When Elders leave it does have a local impact, but this does not get talked about out of the area by J.W's

When talking about this, and other matters to an old J.W guy a few months ago, he said, " But we know nothing about that ." I replied " But all of this is easily available on-line". He just shrugged.

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A lot of bodies

by Elena in

i have this memory of a gb member once saying that there would be a lot of bodies to be buried after armageddon.. does anyone else remember who said it?.

it was probably in the last decade or so.

ive been trying to find the video i’m sure it was on lloyd evens and all the other similar channels when it was said.. i can’t remember which gb member said it.

Phizzy

I well remember that stupid statements were made about this, it upset me to think of a "God of love" which I believed in, who would murder so many innocent people and even children and babies , WHY ?

I said to a young guy after one such Talk that " I think we will be surprised at who survives Armageddon". Of course, that was me deluding myself, the ghastly "Jehovah" had supposedly murdered the innocents in a Global Flood, and we were told "He does not change".

I was some years later discussing about the Big "A" with a M.S. who visited me after I left, and asked what the judgement of those who were put to death was based upon, he replied " On if they rejected the truth when we told them about it".

I said " In that case, it would be more loving, when someone opened their front door, to shoot them in the head, that way they are assured of a Resurrection".

He couldn't cope with that bit of blinding logic !

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Beside reading Thucydides the author of Daniel read Herodotus

by kepler in

over a year ago, i engaged in a discussion on a similar topic.

it was titled, "has anyone read thucydides beside the author of daniel?".

since my annotated new jerusalem bible mentions a number of reasons why the text was probably written largely in the 2nd century bce to address events happening in that period ( the seleucid occupation and desecration of the temple), i was aware of a number of arguments for the case.

Phizzy

What a great Thread ! Full of open-minded Scholarship. This stood out to me from your Post above Vidqun, : "Scholars were very careful not to contradict the mainstream beliefs ..."

Biblical Scholars, with a Career to protect have long been this way, even those seen as somewhat maverick at the time when they posit a new idea are VERY cautious, never stating clearly what obviously lies behind their findings, in case they upset the Old Boys in their Ivory Towers.

The big Sign that many an Establishment Scholar is troubled by a new idea is the dismissal of such ideas as "This is a very fringe view", with no supportive evidence as to why this "fringe view" is wrong. Because if this "fringe view" is in fact correct, a lot of their previous work is now redundant.

Hence Biblical Scholarship only seems to move on in small increments, and hence very slowly.

Thanks again for the Thread, and thanks to all who contributed, giving us the benefit of true open-mined Scholarship.