Welcome Kool Jo. I'm a born-in, still-in but 'mentally out'. Same reasons as you, family ties etc. Have you looked at jwfacts website? It's excellent and I found great to read after I'd finished CoC. In Search of Christian Freedom also by Ray Franz is good. Once you've done all that it's impossible to go back to it all. It's a real opening of Pandora's Box isn't it?!
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New member
by Kool Jo ini've been lurking here since late last year...was very hesitant to join the forum because of fear that satan would control my pc.... .
i'm born in, but always had my little doubts about "the truth" since i was young, but went ahead and got baptized ect.... .
i stumbled upon this site while looking for a km and initially thought it was a jw forum, but after seeing some of the titles of various threads, i thought to myself "i'm on an apostate website".
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Want honest answers
by independenthinker ini've wanted to make this account for the past 2 weeks, but ive been afraid that ill get caught by posting.
do they check this site?.
im 18 years old,baptized at 14. really my problems started a few weeks ago.
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tornapart
Hi independentthinker. Please don't be scared. But don't rush anything. I found out the things you have recently and I'm a born-in in my 50's! It's very frightening at first and you don't know what to think, feel or do. Just take it slowly, don't talk to anyone just yet (except maybe here). Read as much as you can but not so much that it overwhelms you. It's a difficult place to be and as I've found there's no going back to 'not knowing'. It's like opening a Pandora's box. We've all been there in one way or another. Just take it slow!!
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People coming in VS. People running out...
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tornapart
Last assembly I went to, end of last year, had 3 baptised. Since then in our town alone I know of 3 who have da'd themselves.
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Rewriting J. Witness mistakes.
by edmond dantes inif the governing body could turn back time and do a rewrite or change their past teachings what would be their top priority ?.
would they have to eliminate everything and start again?.
any one want to tell them what to shred before forensics arrive?.
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tornapart
They had the opportunity in the 1970's when Carl Jonson sent them his treatise over 607BCE and asking for change. They ignored it and df'ed him and anyone else who agreed with him, icluding one of their own GB members (Ray Franz). I can't see it ever happening.
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Why I Hate Religion
by Christ Alone ini know this is a few months old.
but i think it's profound to people that still think like the wt trained them to think.
even after coming out of the wt, they still feel that all christians believe that they alone have the true religion or denomination.
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tornapart
Is this to say all those that go to church are not true christians?
Not ALL who go to church are true christians but obviously some are. It is the organisations themselves that are damaging.
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Why I Hate Religion
by Christ Alone ini know this is a few months old.
but i think it's profound to people that still think like the wt trained them to think.
even after coming out of the wt, they still feel that all christians believe that they alone have the true religion or denomination.
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tornapart
Organised 'christianity' is NOT true christianity. They are not teaching Christ, they are teaching doctirnes of men and assuming power with everything bad that goes with it. Jesus condemned the Pharisees for this. A true christian follows Jesus and is not a part of any man made religion.
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CELEBRATE WITH ME!!!
by Notreadytorun inok so if you look at my membership and post history im very much a new member here, but have been researching things for some months on and off, so i have not made any sudden decisions..... i have been reading heaps of reasoning here as to why many of you have left jws, particularly those of you who have left for reasons of conscience.
i have just read crisis of conscience, which has become the proverbial "nail in the coffin" for me.. for many reasons i am no longer one of jehovahs witnesses in my heart, but i still identify myself as a christian, and will continue to uphold bible principles in my life.
the two big realisations for me is that: one: i do not have to compromise my bible trained conscience to make this differentiation, and it does not make me a true apostate, although loyal jws would label me that.
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tornapart
Hi Notreadytorun, I'm right where you atm. It's not esy is it? For me it is a complete balancing act. Hang in there the best way you know how.
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Why I Hate Religion
by Christ Alone ini know this is a few months old.
but i think it's profound to people that still think like the wt trained them to think.
even after coming out of the wt, they still feel that all christians believe that they alone have the true religion or denomination.
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tornapart
A couple of nice websites for ex JWs who are still believers in Christ: jwstruggle.com and 21st-century-christians.org
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In love with a JW...
by CuriousUK inapologies if this has been discussed before, or is in the wrong forum, but i could really do with some advice.
two years ago i met the love of my life; someone i regard as my soulmate.
he is an active jw and i am a practising church of england person.
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tornapart
Curious.. I think it is a very good idea to get him to read Crisis of Conscience. I've been a JW from birth and am now in my 50's. It had an incredible and lasting effect on me. If he reads it I am fairly sure it will affect him. If he is unwilling to at least read it then maybe he is not worth it. If he does it could make all the difference.
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tornapart
Edmund Blackadder : "You have absolutely no idea what irony is, have you Baldrick?"
Baldrick: "Yes I have. It's just like steely and goldy, 'cept it's made of iron"
(Blackadder one of the best British sitcoms) :)