Brilliant find Terry! So if mankind's 6,000 year existence ended in 1872 and this was from God then 1975 was a sham. And if 1975 was the end of 6,000 years of mankind's existence and this was from God, 1872 must have been a sham. So either way, it can't possibly be from God!
tornapart
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UNPACKING the language that Traps
by Terry in"you must be holy because jehovah is holy", the watchtower, february 15, 1976. page 124, "would not a failure to respond to direction from god through his organization really indicate a rejection of divine rulership?".
the above quoted watchtower article came the year after the failure of 1975 on every level.. not only was the worldwide publicity connected with 1975 totally embarassing to jehovah's name and organization it was the 2nd time the error.
had been made!
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Baby I Love Your Way
by TOTH inwhen i was about 16 years old i began recording some of the music i was learning how to play.
i can still remember the scoldings i got too.
whether it was a blues instrumental i wrote or a cover song, i caught hell for it.
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tornapart
Very nice TOTH! A relative of mine left the org. and in his 50's now does his own music, plays guitar, sings, writes music, plays in clubs and sells CDs. It's not too late!
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Carrying a gun out in service
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tornapart
Having said that I think I conveniently forgot about a guy in our cong that was attacked by a psycho with a knife and ended up in hospital, he was lucky not to get killed...
But it would be impossible to get hold of a gun legally here, and if you were caught with one you'd find yourself in jail for a long time!
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Carrying a gun out in service
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tornapart
So glad I live in the UK!!
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Super Secret Pro JW Forum Website!
by Iamallcool inhttp://www.getphpbb.com/phpbb/viewtopic.php?t=421&mforum=jw.
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tornapart
Conventions is in the 'fun stuff' section...
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Since exiting the Witnesses have you Become More " Spiritual " ? - Not ........
by flipper in..... necessarily more religious, but more spiritual in a non-religious way ?
although being religious is one of the definitions os " spiritual " it encompasses much more in the webster's new world dictionary , under the word spiritual it's definition is : " 1. of the spirit or the soul as distinguished from the body or material matters 2. of, from, or concerned with the intellect ; intellectual 3. of or consisting of spirit ; not corporeal 4. characterized by the ascendancy of the spirit ; showing much refinement of thought and feeling 5. of religion or the church ; sacred, devotional, or ecclesiastical ; not lay or temporal 6. spiritualistic or supernatural .
quite a variety of definitions !
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tornapart
I have to say also that I feel far more connected to God lying in the grass in the sunshine listening to the birds sing or watching the stars on a clear night than any time I've ever spent sitting in a KH!!
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Since exiting the Witnesses have you Become More " Spiritual " ? - Not ........
by flipper in..... necessarily more religious, but more spiritual in a non-religious way ?
although being religious is one of the definitions os " spiritual " it encompasses much more in the webster's new world dictionary , under the word spiritual it's definition is : " 1. of the spirit or the soul as distinguished from the body or material matters 2. of, from, or concerned with the intellect ; intellectual 3. of or consisting of spirit ; not corporeal 4. characterized by the ascendancy of the spirit ; showing much refinement of thought and feeling 5. of religion or the church ; sacred, devotional, or ecclesiastical ; not lay or temporal 6. spiritualistic or supernatural .
quite a variety of definitions !
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tornapart
I have definitely become more spiritual and think much more towards the 'inner person' and how I relate to God and Christ and the world around me. I still go to meetings but they have become meaningless rituals (I go for show). I look far more deeply into the meaning of the Bible message particularly pertaining to Christ and what it means to me personally and prayer is more meaningful to me. The so called 'Sacred Service' as talked about in the WT study tomorrow is nothing more than getting in a hamster wheel and go round and round getting nowhere.
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Elders Wives/kids
by exwhyzee inhow many elders wives or kids have looked at the congregation files without their husband/father knowing about it?
anyone here have any knowledge of this.
how foolish anyone is to go to these people if they keep a written record/file on you.
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tornapart
I've been an elder's wife for nearly 30 years and never looked at anything. Well, except a very quick peek at the elder's manual, only after I discovered all the falsehoods about the WTS and even then I felt guilty about it! LOL
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Is the Watchtower shy about repeating their new "generation" teaching?
by slimboyfat inas i recall in the 1980s talks and watchtower literature, magazines and books were always talking about the "generation" teaching and how it proved armageddon was going to come any day now.. but am i correct in thinking they have only actually mentioned the new "overlapping generations" teaching once or twice in the literature?
why are they so shy about talking about their great new interpretation?
it's almost enough to make you suspect they are a embarrassed about it.. mention it once or twice, don't dwell on it, hope everyone just accepts it, and don't bring it up again.
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tornapart
And now we're not supposed to ask any more questions. All the answers there are have already been covered..
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Wisdom From a Former Elder
by Conan The Barbarian inthere is a brother in our congregation who moved in a few years ago.
i know he had handled many difficult matters, as others had told me this.
when he moved in, i was told that he came with a sterling recommendation, but declined to serve.
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tornapart
Sounds very much to me like he is in the 'conscious class'! Perhaps you put out one or two feelers and see his response? Although he might be very wary if he's been 'burned'.