Posts by tornapart

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Jwfacts-- More Lies But This Time About The Great Crowd

by Recovery in

jwfacts has an article that explains why the great crowd must be in heaven.

i am also aware that many of these are the same arguments that stemmed from the 'awakenings at bethel' so my statements are not simply attacks of jwfact's character (since these arguments are probably not original) but rather his copy and paste of what others have said instead of verifying it as 'fact' for himself.. so here are jwfacts arguments:.

1. he shows that russell and rutherford (at some point) believed that the great crowd were in heaven.. 2. each term that describes the great crowd of revelation 7 is else used to described the anointed by the wt.

tornapart

What I had never been able to understand was why... from the time Christ died, right up until 1935.... all christians believed they would go to heaven after they died.

The Bible Students and early JWs believed it too. It was only in 1935 this doctrine was changed. Why? Maybe finding the answer to this question.... for yourself... will help. Don't fall back on 'well, the light gets brighter' because that is false reasoning.

Why was the doctrine of all christians going to heaven changed after 1935 by Jehovah's Witnesses? No need to answer me, just look at it for yourself.

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Stop fighting about Oompa.

by Robert7 in

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friends

i am writing this because i am so upset about the bickering and fighting that is going on about oompa.

this was an amazing wonderful, peaceful, giving man who never met a strager who is now deceased and you are taking his name and running all over the place with it using it for your own agendas.

he is not a statistic.

tornapart

Dear Stacey, my heart really goes out to you. I'm glad you have this place you can write on and tell us about your friend. My dad suffered with bi-polar and it wasn't easy to live with. He attempted suicide. Had electric shock treatment. Mutiple times in a mental health hospital. Sometimes the 'highs' were as bad (if not worse) than the lows. It was hard for my mum and for everyone who loved him.

Please keep writing, it helps to be able to vent all your feelings of grief, anger, pain and also the happy memories too. You loved him and all of those feelings are going to be close to the surface.

Sending you lots of love.

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I was HAPPY as a JW, how did I get here?

by MC RubberMallet in

some have figured out, but i am a poster that previously used another name.

but even then i did not give many details about myself.

i barely cracked 100 posts.. but i have never done a thread to explain why i am here.

tornapart

Looking forward to reading the next bit MC.

Think for me I had what I considered a happy childhood and adult life. Despite the doubts, it never bothered me too much. I think Doc summed it up beautifully! (page 2)

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Possibly The Most Important Issue Of Our Time

by metatron in

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does the us government have highly advanced technology that it is concealing?.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4n0fo_htf5s&feature=youtu.be.

forget the obamney election.

tornapart

I think there's too much stuff out there for there not to be something behind it. What it actually is; who knows? I think I'm still in the camp of 'seeing is believing' but I'm not totally dismissive either.

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UK BBC3 Don't Tell The Bride on now

by ballistic in

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friends

uk bbc3 don't tell the bride on now.

young couple getting married on "don't tell the bride" are ex-jws.

it's on tv right now.

tornapart

Just watched it on iplayer.. what a lovely young couple, they were adorable! Such lovely friends they had too. So glad they had their beautiful day.

Wish them lots of love and happiness. Wonder if they ever visit JWN?

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Apostasy Trial - Part 6 It's finally all online...

by RayPublisher in

the entire saga, all 3 hours are now online.

this last one took hours and hours to edit and i am so glad it is done.

(although i still have the behind the scenes footage to put up on how i did the hidden camera lol!

tornapart

Wow! That prayer of yours at the end just broke me up! And John 16....

I just hope that these videos will be watched by many awakening JWs or those with some doubts. I told my son the other night about your JC and your videos on youtube.... I hope his curiosity will get the better of him. If he does, I know they will affect him.

Thanks for you sweet words Eric.. I'm really touched! You have a big heart! ..... Kleenex? You big softeeee... LOL Love you little bro...

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I would love for you to know my Oompa.... (from one of his closest friends)

by Robert7 in

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