anyone in that dr.s office can view your records. odds are she will know within a few months. confidentiality is one thing yes, but that does not mean she won't snoop for herself. ask your doctor about monitoring your info, i beleive they can see anyone internally that has viewed your file. if a staff member has viewed it without cause they can identify it. at least I know they can in my dr.s office
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Meeting with my family doctor...
by NVR2L8 ini needed a prescription renewed and found out my old doc retired...met my new doc and took this opportunity to update my medical record...removed the no blood transfusion clause from my file.
i told the doctor that inconsistencies within my church's doctrines made it impossible for me to put my life at risk for no valid reason.
after throwing out my medical directive card, amending my medical record is another step toward totally breaking free from the cult.
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does anyone feel messed up sexually because of being brought up as jw? like you have missed out, etc?
by johnjones3210 inhiya,.
i'm new to this forum but just wanted to talk to somebody about this.. i was brought up as a jw and left just over a year ago.
i'm now 26 and feel messed up sexually.
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yup
learning to interact with the opposite sex socially AND sexually is huge in developing confidence and self esteem. This does not mean you have to be promiscuous to have either of those, but I beleive if you are an ex-JW that is older and trying to "get in the game" it can be a real struggle to not be either a complete wussy or a creepy perv....]
JMHO
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the WTS says obey only us without question as if we are the voice of god
by wallsofjericho init always amazes me that if you make a statment like this to the rank & file jw they will without fail, emphatically deny this is the case.. yet it is 100% fact!!!.
quote "it is vital that we appreciate this fact and respond to the directions of the "slave" as we would to the voice of god, because it is his provision.
" watchtower 1957 jun 15 p.370.
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Think about it -
This Cult even has a "loyalty test" question devised to ascertain one's loyalty to the WTS as God's organization, channel, voice, etc.
"To receive everlasting life in the earthly Paradise we must identify that organization and serve God as part of it." Watchtower 1983 Feb 15 p.12
"We need to obey the faithful and discreet slave to have Jehovah’s approval." Watchtower 2011 Jul 15 p.24 Simplified English Edition
"Since Jehovah God and Jesus Christ completely trust the faithful and discreet slave, should we not do the same?" Watchtower 2009 Feb 15 p.27
"To act consistently with our baptism for life and into the Greater Noah we must submit to and cooperate with that slave and its legal instrument, the Watch Tower Society." Watchtower 1959 Oct 1 p.583Punkofnice - Thanks but you should be thanking Paul Grundy for his excellent website www.jwfacts.com - I am on that site everyday mining these unbeleivable and incriminating WTS quotes
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the WTS says obey only us without question as if we are the voice of god
by wallsofjericho init always amazes me that if you make a statment like this to the rank & file jw they will without fail, emphatically deny this is the case.. yet it is 100% fact!!!.
quote "it is vital that we appreciate this fact and respond to the directions of the "slave" as we would to the voice of god, because it is his provision.
" watchtower 1957 jun 15 p.370.
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it always amazes me that if you make a statment like this to the rank & file JW they will without fail, emphatically deny this is the case.
Yet it is 100% fact!!!
QUOTE "It is vital that we appreciate this fact and respond to the directions of the "slave" as we would to the voice of God, because it is His provision." Watchtower 1957 Jun 15 p.370
QUOTE "The point is that Christians have implicit trust in their heavenly Father; they do not question what he tells them through his written Word and organization." Watchtower 1974 Jul 15 p.441 **** and how do we learn what God tells us in his written word?
QUOTE Only this organization functions for Jehovah's purpose and to his praise. To it alone God's Sacred Word, the Bible, is not a sealed book. Many persons of the world are very intelligent, capable of understanding complex matters. They can read the Holy Scriptures, but they cannot understand their deep meaning."" Watchtower 1973 Jul 1 p.402
I LOVE IT!!
so when the org says "we do not question" what we learn from the bible and from the F&DS, when you read the above quote you see that we are not cabapable of learning from gods word without the F&DS telling us what it means.
THEREFORE - the WTS is ACTAULLY saying in the Watchtower 1974 Jul 15 p.441 quote above is....
- we do not question what we learn from the F&DS and the F&DS. We listen to them without question as if their writings are the voice of god.
INCREDULOUS!!!
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(Double posted for formatting.... sorry) So I have been thinking about this lately, sorry if it has already been brought up here on another thread. But if the greek scriptures are directed to the 144,000 does this cause trouble for our most recent "new light" on F&DS=GB? First off, some quotes from the WTS regarding the 144,000 *******Only the 144,00o have Jesus as mediator- "So in this strict Biblical sense Jesus is the "mediator" only for anointed Christians." Watchtower 1979 April 1 p.31 "Likewise, the Greater Moses, Jesus Christ, is not the Mediator between Jehovah God and all mankind. He is the Mediator between his heavenly Father, Jehovah God, and the nation of spiritual Israel, which is limited to only 144,000 members." Worldwide Security Under the "Prince of Peace" pp. 10-11 *******the Greek scriptures are mainly written for them- Revelation, it's Grand Climax at Hand pp. 317-318 "Yes, these words are primarily "for the congregations." This is a message, first of all, for the congregation of anointed Christians on earth. Everything in Revelation is addressed primarily to anointed Christians, who will inhabit New Jerusalem. Through that congregation, the great crowd is also privileged to gain understanding of these precious prophetic truths." United in Worship p.111 "Special attention was being given to making up the government that would rule mankind for 1,000 years, and nearly all the inspired letters in the Christian Greek Scriptures are primarily directed to this group of Kingdom heirs - "the holy ones," "partakers of the heavenly calling." Watchtower 1974 June 15 p.376 "Also, it is to the spirit-anointed Christians who will rule in that kingdom that most of the Christian Greek Scriptures is directed, including the promises of everlasting life." ******************* Yet online at JW.org we can still read this from the w07 4/1 pp. 21-25
Loyal to Christ and His Faithful Slave “On arriving” to inspect the “slave” in 1918, Christ found a spirit-anointed remnant of faithful disciples who since 1879 had been using this journal and other Bible-based publications to provide spiritual “food at the proper time.” He acknowledged them as his collective instrument, or “slave,” and in 1919 entrusted them with the management of all his earthly belongings. ........
Giving Loyal Support 14 The humble submission of the other sheep to the anointed members of spiritual Israel was foretold in the prophecy of Isaiah: “This is what Jehovah has said: ‘The unpaid laborers of Egypt and the merchants of Ethiopia and the Sabeans, tall men, will themselves come over even to you, and yours they will become. Behind you they will walk; in fetters they will come over, and to you they will bow down. To you they will pray, saying, “Indeed God is in union with you, and there is no one else; there is no other God.”’” (Isaiah 45:14) Symbolically, the other sheep today walk behind the anointed slave class and its Governing Body, following their leadership. As “unpaid laborers,” the other sheep willingly expend their physical strength and their resources in support of the worldwide preaching work that Christ assigned to his anointed followers on earth.—Acts 1:8; Revelation 12:17. 15 The other sheep are happy and grateful to serve Jehovah under the oversight of the slave class and its Governing Body. They recognize the anointed as members of “the Israel of God.” (Galatians 6:16) As figurative “strangers” and “foreigners” associated with spiritual Israel, they joyfully serve as “farmers” and “vinedressers” under the direction of the anointed, the “priests of Jehovah” and ‘ministers of God.’ (Isaiah 61:5, 6) They zealously share in preaching this good news of the Kingdom and in making disciples of people of all the nations. They give wholehearted assistance to the slave class in shepherding and nurturing newly found sheeplike ones.
*********** the WTS has said that the other sheep are "walking behind" the anointed and GB. What does the prophecy at Isa 45:14 mean now that the other sheep and non-GB anointed are all members of the "domestic class"? Above,the WTS says: "They recognize the anointed as members of “the Israel of God.” (Galatians 6:16) As figurative “strangers” and “foreigners” associated with spiritual Israel, they joyfully serve as “farmers” and “vinedressers” under the direction of the anointed, the “priests of Jehovah” and ‘ministers of God.’ (Isaiah 61:5, 6" How are the other sheep strangers and foreigners to those of the anointed that are of the same domestic class as they are? If the GB are alone the Israel of God then how can the non-GB anointed be said to be "strangers" to the F&DS that is the GB? I don't feel I have completed all my research on this by any means, but I just got to thinking on this and I just had to post. Any thoughts on whether or not the GB will soon be the "Israel of God" and if so, what the impact of this would be? I hope some of you can piece together where my mind is trying to go with this.....
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Help me find a post please, re: listening to GB/FDS=listening to God
by Muddy Waters inagh, i can't find a post... somebody asked a question looking for various quotes where the wts equated following their words to following god's words.. there was an excellent discussion with lots of wt articles quoted... including a scan of a 1942 or 1943 wt article.
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would appreciate the link, would like to bookmark.. thank you so much.
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"We need to obey the faithful and discreet slave to have Jehovah’s approval." Watchtower 2011 Jul 15 p.24 Simplified English Edition
"[A mature christian] does not advocate or insist on personal opinions or harbor private ideas when it comes to Bible understanding. Rather, he has complete confidence in the truth as it is revealed by Jehovah God through his Son, Jesus Christ, and "the faithful and discreet slave." Watchtower 2001 Aug 1 p.14
"Since Jehovah God and Jesus Christ completely trust the faithful and discreet slave, should we not do the same?" Watchtower 2009 Feb 15 p.27
"To act consistently with our baptism for life and into the Greater Noah we must submit to and cooperate with that slave and its legal instrument, the Watch Tower Society." Watchtower 1959 Oct 1 p.583For many decades, the Slave included all "anointed" Witnesses, but in 2012 the Governing Body assumed this role upon themselves alone. For several years the Governing Body had been making statements that increased its own authority.
"The anointed and their other sheep companions recognize that by following the lead of the modern-day Governing Body, they are in fact following their Leader, Christ." Watchtower 2010 Sep 15 p.23
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Watchtower's Weirdest Photograph?
by Marvin Shilmer inwatchtower's weirdest photograph?.
you wont believe it when you see it.
and is available at: http://marvinshilmer.blogspot.com/2012/10/watchtowers-weirdest-photograph.html.
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almost looks like someone has cut an image out of another photograph or picture and placed on top, then photographed the edited image
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Are you a person who TRIES NEW THINGS?
by Terry inso-called type a personalities are risk-takers...or so we are told.. i don't know about that.. i know that people aren't easily categorized into neat little folders of behavior.. .
i know that some of us are very very reluctant to try new things while others have a sense of adventure.. .
are you a person who tries new things?.
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Hi Terry!
I love that your back here ;)
I have always flip-flopped on my feelings about myself in this area. One day I feel like I am a go getter and other days I feel like I am wasting my life in front of the TV
Having said that, I do actually do a lot of things that are very different from the average joe (will not list here as they could be used to identify me)
I like the idea of bking though, you have got me thinking. Maybe over the winter I will check out some bikes for next spring/summer.
I KNOW that one day i will jump out of an airplane. I WILL bungee jump. I WILL climb (a small) mountain.
These are new things I am determined to try. Thanks for getting me motivated on this again!
woj
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WT article on Esther: dead wrong.
by JeffT ina few weeks ago the pastor at our church gave the sermon from the book of esther.
this sparked some old wt memories.
i looked through my old bound volumes and found this gem of misguided scholarship from the writing department.
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YADIRF:
I just did, Donkey's Butt! Must I repeat:
The story of Esther presents the King as a sober, principled man. Why not read the account and see.
Or maybe it's simply that you CAN'T read. LOL!
*** THAT'S your proof?? Yadirf, just saying something isn't proof. We are not glossy-eyed R&F JW's that just beleive eveything the WT says to try not to use WT logic with us, it doesn't work. It's laughable that you actually think you proved your point with that statement. Typical WT parrot.
