i wish i could give more
anyone else here readig this, please think about supporting randy in some small way, he does so much for our community
tx randy!
nestor and toni kuilan are writing a book of their memoirs surrounding their experience with the 1980 apostasy hunts.. .
read a little bit about it here:.
http://freeminds2.org/meet-nestor-and-toni-kuilan/.
i wish i could give more
anyone else here readig this, please think about supporting randy in some small way, he does so much for our community
tx randy!
today my extended family lost someone much too young.
my 18 month old cousin bryler fell in a swimming pool yesterday and was missing for several minutes before he was discovered.
his mom and grandmother and several other family members performed cpr and tried to revive him while waiting on the ambulance (which took quite a while as they live in the backwoods of southern oklahoma).
my heart aches over reading this
so unbelievabley tragic
so the next time you are in a group of witnesses and discussion about a sad event where people died occurs (such as a car accident, natural disaster etc), just casually say:.
" oh well, that's a few less people jehovah has to kill at armageddon.....so don't be upset!...at least they now get a resurrection".
that will make witnesses think!.
i heard friends joke about using pitchforks to clean up all the dead bodies
nestor and toni kuilan are writing a book of their memoirs surrounding their experience with the 1980 apostasy hunts.. .
read a little bit about it here:.
http://freeminds2.org/meet-nestor-and-toni-kuilan/.
randy
we still appreciate all your hard work
i made a donation at freeminds to help younon your trip
bedt of luck. looking forward to seeing the end result
it's happened before.
how much crap can any rational human being take before they just snap & walk away disgusted?.
I say NO
most aren't in it for the doctrine, they probably couldn't tell you what "they believed" before the recent changes. They don't care.
they're on the "ark" .... thats all that matters
you worry too much about silly doctrines. People that care about doctrine don't become JW's
.. the new wbt$ donation arrangement/ jw kingdom hall bank account theft... is a very hot topic right now... the wbt$ is literally going to clean out kingdom hall bank accounts,filled with donations from jws... that theft is going to happen world wide..the wbt$ is going to steal from 7 million plus jw`s... .. we have jw elders here on jwn,that know whats going on... they "serve" in kingdom halls,they are "supposed" to be looking after the welfare of the average jw... they know there is a 4 page letter,only one page will be read to the congregation..the rest will be kept secret... they know the wbt$ is about to steal jw donations..on a world wide scale!!!...
.. i would like to know what you active jw elders are going to do about this??!!...
are you going to let "your" congregation know about the other 3 secret pages?...
the elders will pick an amount that matches the loan payments they were making
our elders increased our donation 20% higher than our loan repayment, exactly what that WTS was hoping for
regardless of what the finances are in first world countries, the growth is in 3rd world countries. "we" are paying for kingdom halls and property all over the planet for 3rd world countries..... HOWEVER, the WTS forgets to include in their statements of "equalizing" that we are not building the halls for the poor but for the filfthy rich WTS that owns the halls and property.
Its a perfect plan
.. the new wbt$ donation arrangement/ jw kingdom hall bank account theft... is a very hot topic right now... the wbt$ is literally going to clean out kingdom hall bank accounts,filled with donations from jws... that theft is going to happen world wide..the wbt$ is going to steal from 7 million plus jw`s... .. we have jw elders here on jwn,that know whats going on... they "serve" in kingdom halls,they are "supposed" to be looking after the welfare of the average jw... they know there is a 4 page letter,only one page will be read to the congregation..the rest will be kept secret... they know the wbt$ is about to steal jw donations..on a world wide scale!!!...
.. i would like to know what you active jw elders are going to do about this??!!...
are you going to let "your" congregation know about the other 3 secret pages?...
How many JW Elders are willing to use that Power and Authority to do the Right Thing?!..
Will JW Elders let JW Friends and Family they are Supposed to be Looking After,get Robbed by the WBT$?..
JW Elders have a Choice to Make..
JW Elders have to Decide if they are Honorable and Caring People.....Or..
Are they willing to be Accomplices In the WBT$ Theft of JW Donated Money?!!..
"Obviously its what Jehovah wants so its "the right thing to do". Who are "we" to argue with Jehovah?"
thats what elders think about this
if you do not know what i am talking about, google about it.
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thank u xyz for indexing 1975 income to current income for a comparison of actual value.
yes disposable income is less now than in the past, and yes this generation is less well off than its parents, but when u ncompare apples to apples income vs expenses is all relative
talking about 25 cents a gallon gas when ppl grossed $5,000 annual means nothing if u dont consider the dollar values
the gb can kiss my ass.. i'm writing "0" on the little slip of paper they pass out.. hey here's a thought:.
you know that "widow's might" stuff they're always talking about?
well i'm pretty dang sure that the lady was giving from the heart not because she filled out some dumba$$ piece of paper pledging two small coins several months previous!.
QUOTE - It does seem as if the org lawyers have told them its time to liquidate and get the money as far out of reach as possible - END QUOTE
I suppose interest free loans would still be transacted and therefore "locked" into the US assets of the Corporation. By absolving all loans and just receiving "donations" the Corporation no longer runs a US quasi-business component within it and all the new cash can be freely moved anywhere on the planet without ledger accounts pinning it to US operations.
I imagine this would eliminate many finacial "books" that the could be ordered by the supreme court to be seized or frozen
this is a rumor i heard back in november, it comes to me third or fourth-hand.
feel free to poke holes.
i have many doubts about this myself.
i believe its very easy for the GB or anyone of the upper echilon to rationalize and justify using psychologists or consultants to assist in phasing in change.
The GB can easily dismiss away any issues under the premise "if its good for the organization, then its what Jehovah wants"
For a long time I would not believe this. But the reality is, the way these changes are phased in, the virtual "cat and mouse" between new light in response to factual evidence, the intelligence behind the wording, the cushioning of the psycholigical impact, etc of new light is far more advanced than the minds of any GB member could ever dream up.
the GB are looking for a "response" to the current needs of the Org. No matter what that response is, "if its good for the Org, then it must be the right thing to do"