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  Lying about Shunning! jw.org conceals the "truth"

  by Skinnedsheep in

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  2. friends

  http://www.jw.org/en/jehovahs-witnesses/faq/shunning/ .

  "those who were baptized as jehovahs witnesses but no longer preach to others, perhaps even drifting away from association with fellow believers, are not shunned.

  in fact, we reach out to them and try to rekindle their spiritual interest.".

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  Those who were baptized as Jehovah’s Witnesses but no longer preach to others, perhaps even drifting away from association with fellow believers, are not shunned.

  What a test of faith! Are you proving yourself holy by not associating with family members or others who are disfellowshipped?—Read 1 Corinthians 5:11.

  they are not "lying", they are talking about 2 different things. But they know what they are doing.

  Outsiders understand what shunning is but they don't typically understand disfellowshipping. The WTS knows this and makes the first statetment to non-JW's about inactive ones while making the latter to JW's about disfellowshipped ones.

  to the outsider, they will assume these are the same thing when as we all know they are light years apart in the JW world
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  The Watchtower 11/15/2014

  by wifibandit in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  http://bayfiles.net/file/1jpu5/qhxxxl/w_e20141115.pdf.

  select "premium download".

  (thanks breakfast of champions).

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  Lots of food and supplies down there too

  wts are doomsday preppers too
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  Controversial Opinion: Why the web site campaign is actually brilliant

  by Apognophos in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  there's a lot of talk right now about how stupid it is to have jws hand out leaflets with urls on them.

  "why go to someone's door to tell them they can visit a web site that lets them ask for someone to come to their door?

  " well, i'm sorry, but i have to weigh in with a contrary opinion here on how clever the society is.

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  videos with resurected dead loved ones quickly appeal to emotion. It is the only card the WTS is playing now. Facts and science are 100% against them and they know. Information to refute their claims is available at a click.

  grab hold of someones heart strings and logic goes out the window. that is exactly how the WTS converts people.... by throwing logic out the window
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  for those still "in" what's the mood

  by lastchance in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  in my area the general sense is bleak.

  many are in survival mode.

  even at the convention the appearance of the majority was unhappy and tired.

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  I find that most just don't give all these changesuch thought

  if guess the vast majority are in for the freindship and family, not for the "truth" about overlapping generations and 1914 or a wensite

  when I hang out with JWs were all just having a good time, no one ever talks about "theocratic" stuff because nobody seems to really care
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  I MIss V

  by wallsofjericho in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  v?.

  i miss your awesome videos and all the awesome work you did for us all!

  no one has created videos exposing the watchtower society like you did.. i hope your ok bro.. .

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  any updates about V's whereabouts over the past 2 years?
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  Roll call of those of us stuck in for our spouse or whos spouse is still in!

  by BU2B in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  i just wanted to get a feel for how many here have awakened to ttatt but are still carrying on some jw activities to pacify them and keep the peace.

  also trying to hear from those who have left, but whose spouse has stayed in the wt and in the marriage.. for me it comes down to my own mental anguish.

  i am mentally tortured by attending the meetings, yet i feel compelled to because my wife would kill me with her personality if i had her drag 2 small girls by herself there.

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  Raises hand
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  Guidelines for Traveling Overseers (tga-S)

  by hildebrando in

  1. watchtower
  2. scandals

  today, thanks to a brave do and my colleague elkatire 1980, we make make public the manual, guidelines for traveling overseers (tga-s), of which existence many suspected, but even in english, it wasnt available.. from its very title page, this book indicates in bold letters:.

  it should not be shown to others, nor should any portion of it be reproduced.

  note: for now, this book is only available in spanish, but we are working in translating a brief summary in english, hoping that someone from the english congregations makes it available to you soon.. http://hildeydesa.blogspot.com/2014/06/pautas-para-los-superintendentes.html.

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  The monthly reimbursement can be contributed in whole or in part to the worldwide work by reducing the requested amount in the form Monthly Report (S-301).

  nice play with this one WTS!
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  KIngdom Melodies 7 & 8

  by SuperBoy in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  would love to know why they aren't on the jw.org.. any ideas?.

  it's a bit sad but i still listening to them.

  i feel quite industrious when they are on so get the housework done..

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  i find the new song book a real sleeper. vast majority are somber, mono-tone, boring. where's the "WE'RE JEVOVAH'S WITNESSES!!" and the good ol' victory song?? (CHIPMUNK VOICE) but the bible gives US a reason for cheer....
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  G.B. TALK URGING CHILD BAPTISM!

  by The Searcher in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  the introduction & conclusion to this video is in german, but david splanes' words are loud and clear in english - get your kid baptized asap!.

  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h33pwdsuvlq&feature=youtu.be.

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  If you don't think dressing a 5-year old in a suit and punshing him if he doesn't sit still for 2 hours is cruel, then we're just going to have to agree to disagree.

  I didn't say anything about punishing them. I said its not cruel for kids to be made to be quiet and respectful for 2 hours. I disagree with punishment for something like that.

  Cofty - yes I was born in. And no, I didn't like sitting at meetings. But I didn't like sitting in school from 9am to 3:45pm everyday from age 5 to 18 either but I did that too. was that cruel? And please don't make a strawman by comparing the usefulness or benefit of each, that's not the issue.

  I understand we all have our issues with the Org. but seriously, not all churches have sunday school for kids, lots of kids sit quietly in church, lots of kids sit quitly in school, and lots of adults work in a respectful work environment. Why are some so quick to point a finger solely at the WTS without considering all the others they are implicating with their accusal?
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  G.B. TALK URGING CHILD BAPTISM!

  by The Searcher in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  the introduction & conclusion to this video is in german, but david splanes' words are loud and clear in english - get your kid baptized asap!.

  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h33pwdsuvlq&feature=youtu.be.

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  the teachings of the WTS are total BS, but I don't agree that learning to sit and be attentive for a couple hours is cruel. I think this teaches maturity to kids, and respect. Which is lacking in many western children.

  IMHO immigrants with stricter cultural respect for their parents/elders are much better students and far more respectful and successful as contributors to society than their western counterparts