Posts by wallsofjericho

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For 46 years Jehovah's Witnesses compromised their worship in Mexico to retain ownership of material property

by Watchtower-Free in

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qohven3gjlk.

wallsofjericho

on one hand I understand why they would do this. But they crucify themselves with the WT 1979 5/15 statement (and thousands more just like it)

growing up I remember alternative service was considered a complete comporomise for a JW. But the BOrg is allowed to compromise whenever it needs to?

So JW's went to jail in many countries to not compromise while the Borg essentially pulled a "Peter" and denied Jesus (Jehovah) outright to the Mexican government to keep their bottom line fat.

such blasphemy

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Need help talking with my JW mom who's now willing to "listen" to what we have to say...

by 2pink in

my husband and i (both born in jws--entire extended families all still in excpet for my sister) left the church 5 years ago.

i literally woke up one day and realized it wasn't the "truth".

i did not fade, i just left and told my family i didn't believe it anymore.

wallsofjericho

Matt 24:34

this generation will by no means pass away

i think deep down NO ONE really believes the overlapping generations debacle.

just read that verse and ask her what Jesus meant.

There are lots of other scriptures out there, but just start with one and ask her what SHE thinks it means, not what the org says it means. It will get her thinking

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The rank and file and mentally diseased!

by ADJUSTMENTS in

this sounds like the typical rank and file jw, it's actually a mental disorder, i and many others were once in this state.... delusional disorder is an uncommon psychiatric condition in which patients present with delusions, but with no accompanying prominent hallucinations, thought disorder, mood disorder, or significant flattening of affect.

[ 1 ][ 2 ] delusions are a specific symptom of psychosis.

non-bizarre delusions are fixed false beliefs that involve situations that could potentially occur in real life; examples include being followed or poisoned.

wallsofjericho

^^^ Sometimes I wonder if some posters just wish to scare every lurking active JW back to the kingdom hall.

exactly

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i was happy before i woke up

by losingit in

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idk if waking up has been good for me.

i still have almost no friends.

im still waiting to graduate this december to qualify n b certified for my job.

wallsofjericho

Hi Losing it...

I understand completely how you feel. I am still in the org with my family even though I am mentally 100% out.

I endured about 3 years of horrible stress over this but I started coming around when I allowed myselft the right to be happy regardless of what that required.

I'm not saying its easy, but I have found a way to be happy as a JW despite not beleiving a word of it. I've also found several inside that feel as I do. But we all love our freindships and our bonds.

Needless to say I don't hang out with die-hards that cry about the new system all day long ( you know the types) I have a great group of freinds that just like the same things I do, sports, music, traveling, good food, etc. What's wrong with that?

call me fake, or whatever you want. I have discovered that all that matters is being happy. period. There are happy JW's, happy Catholics, happy atheists, happy muslims, and there are miserable JW's, Catholics, atheists and muslims.

For anyone to say that you can't be a JW and be happy is a very naive statement. There is no right or wrong answer.

People in all walks of life keep parts of their lives private, religion, politics, sexual preferences, opinions etc. Not because their "hiding" it, its just what many of us do in a society to keep peace with our friends, families and co-workers.

If being a JW makes you miserable then LEAVE! but if being happy is more important than being right, (which I truly believe it is) then find your niche and you will find freinds that are like you and understand you, and THAT makes life great, even as JW

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The rank and file and mentally diseased!

by ADJUSTMENTS in

this sounds like the typical rank and file jw, it's actually a mental disorder, i and many others were once in this state.... delusional disorder is an uncommon psychiatric condition in which patients present with delusions, but with no accompanying prominent hallucinations, thought disorder, mood disorder, or significant flattening of affect.

[ 1 ][ 2 ] delusions are a specific symptom of psychosis.

non-bizarre delusions are fixed false beliefs that involve situations that could potentially occur in real life; examples include being followed or poisoned.

wallsofjericho

Enzo if the WBATS can call all apostates mentally diseased, I can call anyone any effing thing I like!!!

there are those on this board (we all know who they are) that are not taken seriously because of their rant style of posting. We all understand many here are angry, but if you want to be taken seriously temper your aggression with rational arguments and concepts

Many of us still have loved ones (that we love very much) who are still in the org. and don't consider these ones "mentally diseased" or mentally ill, they are victims of victims just as we once were

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Question to any practicing JWs

by Mr. Falcon in

i ask you to consider this scenario:.

a devoutly born-again christian man, who strives to live every facet of his life in accordance with what is written in the gospels, spends all of his time helping the poor, reading his bible cover-to-cover, living an austere life and genuinely feels that his life is motivated by his love of christ.

a real christian in practice, both public and private.

wallsofjericho

I actually heard a comment from a brother a couple years ago that his CO brother in law suggested that the WTS is leaning toward the idea that good hearted non-JW's could possibly survive Armageddon based on their heart condition. That we can't judge anyone since they may in fact be spared by Jehovah

I was surprised to hear that but I knew the CO personally and that is why is Bro in law told me.

so whatever that means.........

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1914-1919 ONE QUESTION???

by ADJUSTMENTS in

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after reading a great article and video by mr john cedars on his website:.

http://jwsurvey.org/cedars-blog/the-cedars-challenge-how-to-bring-down-jwsurvey.

it raised a very simple and straightforward question:.

wallsofjericho

for JW's the answer is always "heart condition"

the WTS wasn't anywhere near "truth" as they define it today, but of course they couldn't be until after they would become the faithful slave since they would not have had holy spirit. They could only have been chosen by their heart condition since they could never have truth

Jah would then grow his light brighter from that moment forward

any JW could dance circles around these types of questions. The BOrg uses these same sweeping statements like "heart condition" to brush aside questioning for everything and anything

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Lying about Shunning! jw.org conceals the "truth"

by Skinnedsheep in

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http://www.jw.org/en/jehovahs-witnesses/faq/shunning/ .

"those who were baptized as jehovahs witnesses but no longer preach to others, perhaps even drifting away from association with fellow believers, are not shunned.

in fact, we reach out to them and try to rekindle their spiritual interest.".

wallsofjericho

Those who were baptized as Jehovah’s Witnesses but no longer preach to others, perhaps even drifting away from association with fellow believers, are not shunned.

What a test of faith! Are you proving yourself holy by not associating with family members or others who are disfellowshipped?—Read 1 Corinthians 5:11.

they are not "lying", they are talking about 2 different things. But they know what they are doing.

Outsiders understand what shunning is but they don't typically understand disfellowshipping. The WTS knows this and makes the first statetment to non-JW's about inactive ones while making the latter to JW's about disfellowshipped ones.

to the outsider, they will assume these are the same thing when as we all know they are light years apart in the JW world

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The Watchtower 11/15/2014

by wifibandit in

http://bayfiles.net/file/1jpu5/qhxxxl/w_e20141115.pdf.

select "premium download".

(thanks breakfast of champions).

wallsofjericho

Lots of food and supplies down there too

wts are doomsday preppers too

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Controversial Opinion: Why the web site campaign is actually brilliant

by Apognophos in

there's a lot of talk right now about how stupid it is to have jws hand out leaflets with urls on them.

"why go to someone's door to tell them they can visit a web site that lets them ask for someone to come to their door?

" well, i'm sorry, but i have to weigh in with a contrary opinion here on how clever the society is.

wallsofjericho

videos with resurected dead loved ones quickly appeal to emotion. It is the only card the WTS is playing now. Facts and science are 100% against them and they know. Information to refute their claims is available at a click.

grab hold of someones heart strings and logic goes out the window. that is exactly how the WTS converts people.... by throwing logic out the window