Posts by wallsofjericho

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3/15/12 WT: Health Problems Causing You To Become Spiritually Weak? Then You Are Wicked.

by yourmomma in

http://download.jw.org/files/media_magazines/e1/ws_e_20130315.pdf.

check out the first study article in the march 15th study edition.

it seems they are now stating that if you allow health problems to cause you to miss meetings or become inactive then you are wicked because you refuse to "get up" from being stumbled.

wallsofjericho

meh,

this is nothing new. Lots of fundamentalist religions would make these same kinds of statements to their laity

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After A Day In Field Service, Did You Get Euphoric Or A Spiritual High?

by ÁrbolesdeArabia in

i know this might sound silly but field service did provide a strange type of good feelings after i was done.

i called this the "halo-effect" because i felt so "righteous, obedient and good" for taking the weirdos or "the friends" in my station wagon.

vans and station wagon owners in the congregations often get used hard, pile up seven whacks and your off!

10 things that happened in 2012 - my review

by cedars in

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last year i did a review of 2011 for the forum.

this was more of a review that focussed on some of the awful stuff that was printed in the literature that year - the first year of my awakening.. 2012 has been more interesting from the point of view of things actually happening outside the literature.

i thought it might be nice to take a look back and put some of these events in chronological order.... .

wallsofjericho

great job Cedars! once again you have given JWN a great thread worth reading.

My prediction for 2013?? - no more videos on DVD, all from JW.org. ALSO magazines half size. ALSO iPad's used in field service

OH WAIT!!! THEY ALREADY HAVE THAT ALL THOSE!!

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So.....hi!

by FaceTheFacts in

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not really good at introductions.

i am an active jw who has my doubts about certain things like the bible as a whole but im slowly but surely wading through them.

just of curiousity: what on earth has happened to this board?

wallsofjericho

(i.e. ban of thirdwitness, djeggnog?, Recovery, etc?)

so which of these 3 are you?

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FINALLY! Can you prove God exists? If you can I won't ask again!

by punkofnice in

i have seen debates and shizzle about god or not god etc etc.. i was even confronted by an aggressive and trheatening muslim in the street, who was angry that i wanted proof that god existed.

he ranted on a load of old b0110cks about 'hell' and stuff.

finally he yelled at me: 'do you want god to write your name in the sky?

wallsofjericho

gravity is an energy that exists but cannot be fully explained, perhaps consciousness is also just another energy that cannot be explained.

Maybe Carl Jung is right? I like to think so.

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FINALLY! Can you prove God exists? If you can I won't ask again!

by punkofnice in

i have seen debates and shizzle about god or not god etc etc.. i was even confronted by an aggressive and trheatening muslim in the street, who was angry that i wanted proof that god existed.

he ranted on a load of old b0110cks about 'hell' and stuff.

finally he yelled at me: 'do you want god to write your name in the sky?

wallsofjericho

I do not beleive in God. My answer is, there is no god. The more I study the bible the more I see it for what it is, individual letters and writings each written for a specific purpose, then all compiled by men to accomplish a specific purpose. How many letters & writings were discarded at Nicea? Christianity could look completely if different voting had inserted or removed even a single book from the canon. The holes identified in the Christian bible by modern scholars have fundamentalist christians creating ridiculously complicated scenarios to salvage the appearance of divine inspiration when a historical reading of the text provides the most simple and rational explanation of any text. It only takes one generation to turn folklore into a belief system.

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Hi guess i may have to introduce myself

by rickisteel in

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hi im from the uk im 42 years old , i was brought up as a witness from birth to 12 years of age i left the meetings with my parents ,.

i had a wild youth was a bit of a rebel involving alcohol ,drugs , heavy metal and motorcycles , i was thrown out of home at 17 my sister was 14. and was discarded as my parents remarried and neither of there new partners wanted us (baggage) , anyway by the time i was married and 21. somebody spiked my pizza with lsd (cant remember the flavour ) and for the next 3 days i thought the world was ending , i called my dad and rambled some stuff to him ( cant remember exactly but the world was ending in my head) a little while later i got a witness call briefly , i found out where he lived and went and asked him for a bible , he suggested i have a bible study me and the wife took the offer and so it began again , i was baptised in 93 and went from strength to strength in the truth , aux pioneering , volunteered for everything , talks , cleaning , meeting parts etc was soon appointed and moved on giving public talks , assembly parts , shepparding calls etc , then in 1997 my wife fell down a kerb and damaged her cruciate ligaments several operations later and disabled ( by the way the brothers /sisters in the cong were great at this point ) my wife began to act odd 1n 1999 she tried to take her own life and over the next several years took 26 overdoses and spent much of her life in phychiatrict hospital in 2001 she was bi polar disorder type rapid cycling (not the common oh i feel a bit low type bi polar but the full blown rollercoaster ride bi polar) .

the thing that struck me was i began to feel like a leper and despite a couple of close friends nobody in the cong or on the circuit( long time friends) seemed to care , i brouht up the kids on my own visiting my wife in hospital and caring for her at home , i felt so alone , when i used to take the kids to the meeting / assembly on my own i just got tutts and sad headshakes "she not come" ?

wallsofjericho

Hi and welcome!

I am always interested in stories like this. I thnk it identifies as much about humanity as it does the JW's.

I think in any group and in society in general you will see a waning of peoples interest in others over time. It's not that JW's lose interest, it's that people lose interest.

The hurt within the org is that you are conditioned to beleive that the org is "better" than the world. For those that experience trials, especially those like yours with long term illness & depression, the cold reality of how 'fleshly' the organization really is hits home hard.... that is, witnesses are no better than anyone else no matter how many decades you have beleived it.

This is compounded by the realization that now that you have discovered this, if you leave you have absolutely nobody to go to since no JW will ever talk to you and you have never developed any realy friendships with 'worlldy' people.

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Jehovah's Witnesses dismayed by new magazine format from Watchtower Society.

by Balaamsass in

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wow.

i was surprised this week by calls from active jws complaining about the new magazine format, and more begging for money from the platform.. frankly i was surprized by this reaction since this is old news to jwn members.

i guess actually shuffling to the bookroom and grabbing the new "awake tracts" minus the inside cover forward ...awakened many sleepy, catatonic, bored jws who never read the things or go on the internet anyway.. any feedback from other areas?.

wallsofjericho

so "active JW's" call you on the telephone to complain about the new magazines?

I haven't met a single JW that could care less about the new mag format let alone multiples... and "complaining"? meh. nobody cares.

sounds exagerated to me

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Faith... and Trust: The Same Things?

by AGuest in

in a discussion with some other dear ones, the question was asked as to what such ones put their faith in.

in response to one comment that"one can't function without faith," another disagreed, stating ones can, that "many do so every day... the ones who have trust" (in things like the sun rising in the east versus the west).

that trust extended to "faith" based "on nature and the natural order of things.

wallsofjericho

I was gonna reply to this but then I saw it was Aguest who posted it so......

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Less than 1 million J-Dubs will survive Armageddon. Only hundreds of thousands will survive. Over 6 J-Dubs will be murdered.

by Calebs Airplane in

freddy franz, the great wt prognosticator, had a lot of time on his hands in the 1950s to come up with the strangest end-time assertions and create a sense of urgency.

occasionally, he would even prognosticate approximate amounts of jws who would actually survive armageddon and never die.

for example.... already there are reported over a half million serving as witnesses in the newborn land with the new world society.

wallsofjericho

right on Blues.....

Since this plaguing hail-like message will not convert men, why will it be delivered? So that the wicked will know for a certainty who is causing their

destruction and why."

I remember as a kid thinking how all those bullies at school who picked on me would finally know in the last moments before their horrible death that I, wallsofjericho, was right all along and that they would be fraught with guilt and sorrow for being so stupid to have ever made fun of ME... a TRUE servant of Jehovah!

How could anyone ever suggest that that is a healthy thought for a young child? JW's will say that's not what they encourage but that is such a lame duck. All JW's know that all JW's revel in the thought of such pay back. "Vengeance is mine says Jehovah!".

Oh ya, and after Jehovah kills all those jerks I am going to live in their big houses too!