Topics Started by peacefulpete

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JW Vaccine mandate: The contrast between voices of reason and confusion
by ukpimo in
1. watchtower
2. beliefs
i was reading an intriguing post on the exjw reddit, a forum i do not with to sign up for, as i'm not interested in the internal politics of reddit.

https://www.reddit.com/r/exjw/comments/1hwlja8/the_governing_bodys_letter_that_shook_bethel_and/.

another post counteracted this one, driven by the "conspiracy theory" card.
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Jesus the Maintenance Man
by peacefulpete in
1. watchtower
2. bible
i posted on another thread what i thought was an interesting angle, seldom discussed regarding the role of god/logos in holding creation together and its maintenance.

most moderns think of the universe as a self-perpetuating machine, but ancients looked to the god/s to ensure order continued and fertility returned year after year.

we read, throughout the ot, of jews performing prescribed ritual and festivals to ensure god's blessing and providence.
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Luke Evans new book about being JW
by ElderBerry in
1. watchtower
2. beliefs
i haven’t read it but just browsing say jehovah’s witnesses mentioned a lot.. there are pictures of his congregations he was brought up in.

and his father looks like an elder years ago when luke was young, but i could be wrong.. later on there are pictures of his father was one of the extras in the hobbit as luke had a lead role.

could his father still be an elder and be in movies.
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Is the Watchtower Ultimately a Creation of Fallen Angels?
by Sea Breeze in
1. watchtower
2. beliefs
a watchtower in ceremonial magical tradition is a tutelary spirit of one of the four cardinal points or quarters (east, south, west and north).

in many magical traditions, they are understood to be enochian angels... originating with the enochian tradition of john dee, a version of it was popularized by the hermetic order of the golden dawn, which became hugely influential in modern western esotericism, including wicca.

the watchtowers are invoked during the ritual of casting a magic circle.. .
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Baptism on Fire
by peacefulpete in
1. watchtower
2. bible
going through justin martyr's dialogue with trypho yesterday, i found a variation on the baptism scene :.

88. and let this be a proof to you, namely, what i told you was done by the magi from arabia, who as soon as the child was born came to worship him, for even at his birth he was in possession of his power; and as he grew up like all other men, by using the fitting means, he assigned its own [requirements] to each development, and was sustained by all kinds of nourishment, and waited for thirty years, more or less, until john appeared before him as the herald of his approach, and preceded him in the way of baptism, as i have already shown.

and then, when jesus had gone to the river jordan, where john was baptizing, and when he had stepped into the water, a fire was kindled in the jordan; and when he came out of the water, the holy ghost lighted on him like a dove, [as] the apostles of this very christ of ours wrote.
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Pella
by peacefulpete in
1. watchtower
2. bible
this short thread addresses the often-repeated legend that christians fled jerusalem to pella and escaped the destruction of jerusalem.

the legend is based upon two 4th century comments.. .

the whole body, however, of the church at jerusalem, having been commanded by a divine revelation given to men of approved piety there before the war, removed from the city to a certain town beyond the jordan called pella.
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Angelic Singing
by peacefulpete in
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2. bible
jo 38:7. when the morning stars sang togetherand all the sons of god shouted for joy?.

this passage and others apparently reveal a belief among some jewish communities that angels sang.

the natural corollary is that angels had a language, and that language would naturally be supposed to be a superior one.
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Maddison, WI Shool Shooting - 3 Dead
by Sea Breeze in
1. watchtower
2. scandals
like the one in tennessee, this one in maddison, wi, was done be a female.

the police chief points out that: .

“yes, i don’t know whether [the shooter] was transgender or not, and quite frankly, i don’t think that’s even important.
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More Menorah
by peacefulpete in
1. watchtower
2. bible
another brief example of ancient traditions reinterpreted by worshipers of yahweh.

the book of exodus 25:.

31 ¶ and thou shalt make a lampstand of pure gold; of beaten work shall the lampstand be made; its base and its branches, its bowls, its knops, and its flowers shall be of the same.32 and six branches shall come out of the sides of it, three branches of the lampstand out of the one side and three branches of the lampstand out of the other side,33 three bowls made like unto almonds with a knop and a flower in one branch, and three bowls made like almonds in the other branch with a knop and a flower; thus in the six branches that come out of the lampstand.34 and in the lampstand shall be four bowls made like unto almonds with their knops and their flowers.35 and there shall be a knop under two branches of the same, and another knop under two branches of the same, and another knop under two branches of the same, according to the six branches that proceed out of the lampstand.36 their knops and their branches shall be of the same; all of it shall be one beaten work of pure gold.37 and thou shalt make its seven lamps; and they shall light its lamps, that they may give light over against it.. ok, so there is this strangely detailed description of a sacred golden lampstand, with 7 lamps in a strict formation of 3 branches on each side a single 7th in the center.
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Does god punish children for their parents sins?
by moomanchu in
1. watchtower
2. bible
ezekiel 18: 1-4 , “the word of the lord came to me: ‘what do you people mean by quoting this proverb about the land of israel: “the parents eat sour grapes, and the children’s teeth are set on edge”?

as surely as i live, declares the sovereign lord, you will no longer quote this proverb in israel.

for everyone belongs to me, the parent as well as the child—both alike belong to me.