Topics Started by peacefulpete

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New World, New World Order, New System of Things
by blondie in
1. jw
2. friends
the wts has used to above terms, over the years, some more preferred in certain time periods.

more though, but these occurred to me first.

also the terms "new world" and "new world order" have been used by some us presidents and other leaders..
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What the new JW light position really is 👍
by ElderBerry in
1. watchtower
2. beliefs
i’m still an elder and i consider myself jw light.

as my fellow elders are.

we don’t throw our weight around like elders used to in the past, it’s all very easy going these days.
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Ebion
by peacefulpete in
1. watchtower
2. beliefs
early christianity was every bit, if not more, diverse than christianity today.

one of the very early sects was named the ebionites.

we have unfortunately nothing left of their own writings apart from a few quotes from what epiphanius believed was their recension of matthew.
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Did Watchtower Really Teach That Armageddon Was Coming in 1954?
by Jerome56 in
1. watchtower
2. beliefs
in the march 2025 jw broadcast david splane in his morning worship talk mentioned that "some thought" that armageddon would come 40 years after 1914. such statements are usually meant to shift the blame of their own false predictions on to their members for speculating.

however, i was unable to find anything in print showing that such a thing was indeed taught by the society.

was this really a thing?.
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Great Vid from "Faith to Faithless" U.K about leaving.
by Phizzy in
1. jw
2. experiences
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zmnaypn26yy.
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Babylonian Job
by peacefulpete in
1. watchtower
2. beliefs
those new to ancient near east paleography may find it interesting that all cultures have struggled with the seeming injustice of suffering.

the story of job (persecuted/attacked) is one of a number of surviving poetic and prose tales with the theme of the innocent suffering despite entreaties to their gods.

this one often called "poem of the righteous sufferer" is sometimes referred to as the babylonian job.
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Why GB Distorts the Story of Job
by raymond frantz in
1. watchtower
2. bible
https://youtu.be/lpwusxk8ckc?si=d4nb1ciwccql8dox.

a man, like new gb member jody jodele, dripping in wealth—$20,000 rolex, freemasonry ring, cushy life in upstate new york—pontificating about job’s suffering.

it’s a fair jab to question how someone so detached from hardship might approach a story of utter loss.
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1 Thessalonians 5:3....Prophecy ?
by HereIam60 in
1. watchtower
2. beliefs
i've always had difficulty understanding how watch tower interprets 1 thessalonians 5:3 as prophetic of a future event - that the nations will unite in a (false) cry that they have achieved 'peace and security' which will signal the start of the great tribulation.

whenever i've read that passage i got the sense that it is simply stating a general principle... that when people are complacent and off-guard, thinking everything is o.k., peaceful and secure then sudden unexpected events hit them harder and they don't know what to do.

when i was first coming in (1980s) i well recall the "true peace and security" book that made a big deal about the un having declared 1986 'the international year of peace'.
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Hole in the Wall
by peacefulpete in
1. watchtower
2. bible
a recurring motif is generally used by writers to connect stories and characters to the past or suggest parallels.

the gospels and acts are filled with them.

an example of this is found at acts, 2 cor, 1 sam and joshua.
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The Pella Deception: Watchtower May 2025
by raymond frantz in
1. watchtower
2. bible
https://youtu.be/4otnshkqdbi?si=5ilzez_lxqscp1ww.

so, in the latest may 2025 study watchtower, the writers of this magazine, they have another go at revising church history for their own ends.

they take a well-documented historical event—the flight of christians from jerusalem before its destruction in 70 ad - and twisting it into a convenient narrative to reinforce blind obedience to organizational leadership.