Trust me, you have come to the right place. But you have to ask yourself if you really want to be married to that religion for the rest of your life. Do you want to be involved with a cult that will try to control your family life, up to and including the kind of sex you have with your partner? I mean, seriously, read some of the stories that people share on this site. My ENTIRE FAMILY on both sides are JWs with a few exceptions, I wish I had the privilege of not having to deal with them on any level. Do yourself a favor, turn back now, and don't even look back. "Remember Lot's wife..." (A favorite misused quote of the JWs)
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depressed and starting to loose it
by raxxxx insooo... it has been a few good months since i started having doubts and started researching.
now very much convinced i had been lied to and my parents had not done their homework prior being baptised therefore it fucked up my future ... just a bit.
now also had been going out with a jw girl for 1,5 years... and i am starting to loose it... stuck in a lie, delaying the getting engaged because of my attitude towards religion(she knows i had doubts and always have been anti watchtower - got baptized anyway... stupid me - but she doesn't make a big deal out of it... she is not very strong spiritually) ergo i know i am not fit to be head of the house by jw standards... but i just love her too damn much to break her heart by leaving the organization and ergo leaving her.
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Do you recall any disputes during the development of the New Song Book?
by Quarterback ini seem to recall someone mentioning to me that george benson assisted with some of the work on the new song book.. then he left the assignment after an argument with the team.
is there any thing that anyone remembers about that one?.
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exjehovah
I wish I could hear some of them for comedy sake. I haven't been in years and went just last week only for a family member's funeral. I just remember those songs as some of the silliest things set to music, I can't imagine them trying to "upgrade" them. LOL!
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my wife saw shunning first hand
by Aussie Oz inwell the other day we dropped daughter back to her mother, after what was a fabulous whole week with me.. sitting on the verandah of the house is grandpa jw, about 80 and recently widowed.
now, he is my ex father in law and we got on very good back in the day, even helped build his house.. anyway, i drop daughter off and i am looking at the man, who in the whole 10 mins that he sat there, gave one cursory glance our way as i stood on the footpath opposite the house talking to my kids.. this is a guy who will talk the leg off a chair, a guy who will start a conversation with a total stranger in the street, the man is a talker.. i mention to wife as we departed..."poor bastard, not even 'allowed' to say hello the father of his grandkids''.
if i was not d/f i know he would have come over, no doubt whatsoever.
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It is emotional blackmail and total manipulation. I think the shunning of family members is totally ridiculous and not Christian in any way.
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Gave 5 JW's Something to Think About at a Starbucks Today
by flipper ini was having coffee at a starbucks located in a supermarket chain in one of the towns i work in my business .
while sitting there doing paperwork , what looked like 3 elders on their field service break sat at a table no more than 4 feet from me .
after eavesdropping it was obvious they were elders as they were talking about the c.o.
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exjehovah
I love it! Good for you. :-)
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Do you ever "out" yourself?
by exjehovah inin the 22 years since i have left the jw religion, i have come across some precarious situations that i wanted to share and hear how other people handle it.
for the record i forced the hand of the jw and they df'd me.
i didn't care and i still don't, except for the family thing.
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In the 22 years since I have left the JW religion, I have come across some precarious situations that I wanted to share and hear how other people handle it. For the record I forced the hand of the JW and they DF'd me. I didn't care and I still don't, except for the family thing. However, every so often whether in work or in some other business related fashion I will come across a JW. I know the signs since I was raised in that cult and it doesn't take long for them to talk. When it first happened I was still detoxing and I wondered if I should feel compelled to tell them, "hey, I hate your religion" or "guess what you can't talk to me, I am disfellowshipped" or my favorite "I'm an apostate so move it along, thank you very much".
But I'm curious, how do you handle such situations. Do you not say anything at all? These days I don't say a word. I work with someone right now that is an active JW and I smile in her face and laugh in my head. Can I mention she is one of the loudest most obnoxious people where I work, not very skilled or competent. When I bought my new car last year, the sales lady was a JW. I saw ALL the JW literature in her cube and I was so not surprised when she casually tried to ask me about my "spiritual beliefs". I was tempted to say, "I worship this demon named Satan, maybe you have heard of him?", but I just kept it light and fun, let her give me a good deal, and went on my merry way.
How do you handle such situations? Do you tell them or do you just let it ride?
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The cult of the Jehovah Witness - Feel free to add your own interpretation
by exjehovah inthis has been on my mind all day.
i am grateful for a place like this to vent.
for anyone that is wondering why some of us are so disgusted and feel nothing but contempt for the watchtower organization aka jehovah witnesses, i want you to think about it from an outside point of view.. there are a few things that the jw organization does that is not only makes it a cult, but i want to at least touch on a few big ones.. it suppress free thought.
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I meant to come back here yesterday, but was too busy with other things.
4) The threat of Apostasy. This happens to be my favorite tactic that the JW organization does to dessenters in or from their "ranks". Once you wake up to their cult-like tactics, hypocrisy, false doctrine, and the entire speel; many people want to help free the minds of those who have suffered either through emotional or psychological attacks from their family and members, so we reach out and help educate those who are "low hanging fruit". We write blogs, post on websites, and even write a book or two. Oh no, you have committed the worse sin possible by the JW standards. Even now on this site there are active witnessses that are posting as hidden under layers as possible for fear of reprisal. Heck, even those that have been gone for years are still feared by this last ditch tactic to silence you.
Thanks for allowing me to vent.
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Received a very heart felt phone call tonite over the Df Watchtower article
by troubled mind intonight one of my sons called me just to say ," mom i love you !
" .. he told me that this weekend he had read a thread posted by kyria about the new watchtower on shunning df'd relatives ,and that it had really made him sad .
he said, " mom, i am so glad we are all out of the jehovah's witnesses ....i just don't think i could of stood it to think you guys not talking to me ...it really upsets me .
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Thank you for sharing that. So many of us, including myself are disgusted by their new tactics. I am so glad people are seeing it for what it is.
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The cult of the Jehovah Witness - Feel free to add your own interpretation
by exjehovah inthis has been on my mind all day.
i am grateful for a place like this to vent.
for anyone that is wondering why some of us are so disgusted and feel nothing but contempt for the watchtower organization aka jehovah witnesses, i want you to think about it from an outside point of view.. there are a few things that the jw organization does that is not only makes it a cult, but i want to at least touch on a few big ones.. it suppress free thought.
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This has been on my mind all day. I am grateful for a place like this to vent. For anyone that is wondering why some of us are so disgusted and feel nothing but contempt for the Watchtower Organization aka Jehovah Witnesses, I want you to think about it from an outside point of view.
There are a few things that the JW organization does that is not only makes it a cult, but I want to at least touch on a few big ones.
It suppress free thought. It takes a very tactical approach to questioning their authority; even when they admit their ideas were wrong at a later date. They also do any and everything to make you stay in even if the seeds of doubt are lingering.
1) They suppress free thought. You are NOT ALLOWED to question the authority of this group. There is a group of men called the Governing Body who lord over the entire organization with some idea that they and they alone are ordained by the "holy spirit" on what you are to read, think, believe, and worship. If you dare to question them, they will mark you. Which leads me to point number 2.
2) The tactical approach to questioning their authority. Has anyone ever questioned something that came out in a publication; a watchtower or awake? Something a brother said or someone claiming to be of the 144,000 even though they were born in say 1989? Trust me, you will be "marked". And don't take it further. They will expell you out of there with a quickness. Funny thing is, a lot of the really questionable beliefs have been routinely changed "with new light". Have any of the people that were disfellowshipped for questioning the authority of these people reinstated or apologies given? Oh, not on your life. You have to "wait on Jehovah"; imperfect men who are using political voting techniques to create decisions for their organization hide behind these conditioned buzz words to keep their authority completely impenetratable.
3) The tactic to get you to stay. More than likely you were either born in or converted, and most likely your extended family and friends are all JWs. Do they care if you know they are full of baloney? Sometimes I wonder. Especially with their latest harsh approach to family members that are no longer Witness. USE EMOTIONAL BLACKMAIL. CUT ALL TIES. DON'T ACKNOWLEDGE THEM! LET THEM DIE IN THE STREET PENNILESS. They want you to suffer if you don't want to be a witness and they routinely publish information that tells families to ignore their children, their siblings, their extended family because they reject the religion. This has got to be one of the most sadistic mind controlling cults I have ever seen. My reason is that nowhere does it allow free will. What if I just don't agree with their teachings? Should I have to give up my entire family because of it. And you are not telling family members to show them love and decency in your religion. Honestly, it doesn't seem you care whether your doctrine or not. The message is "let them miss their family so much that they come to a religion, even one they don't really want to be apart of..." That's disgusting to me. They can't talk about Muslims or Quakers or any other religion. How can you knowingly tell families to ignore their kids, ignore their family simply because of a difference in belief?
They are a cult. I will write more when I have had my dinner. Feel free to add your own thoughts.
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Still a hard line on DF family members WTApr15 2012
by Gladring inthe april 2012 wt study article has some of the most strongly worded statements about contact with disfellowshipped family members.. page 12, paragraph 17: -.
good that can come when a family loyally.
upholds jehovahs decree not to associate.
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That is nothing but emotional blackmail. They are reveling in the fact that the MOTIVATING reason to get someone back in the religion is by using family as the motivating factor. It really disgusts me on every level.
No one can tell me that the Jehovah Witness religion doesn't break up families. I really want to write a strongly open letter to the Watchtower society and the Associated Press.
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Another Point Against Disfellowshipping (Even the WT can't deny)
by arko_n9ne ini have been shifting some ideas around and the threat of disfellowshipping may actually help me in this instance.
if you've read my other posts, you know why it is i'm on here.
and you know that i am adamant.. but in the research of disfellowship, i've tried thinking of good, alternate arguments or points of reasoning before pressing the red button.
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I totally agree with your premise; but honestly I think it will turn on deaf ears. I think the best thing to do is to find a forum in the media to write open letters to the Watchtower society. This is what I have thought about doing. I recently came back from a funeral and although it wasn't as terrible as I thought it would be, I only interacted with them for the "Memorial" and then we went our separate ways. If I hadn't armed myself with a group of my own friends, some of whom I have been friends with for upwards of 20 years, it probably would have turned out differently.
I honestly think the more we show the hypocrisy in the public, the more their belief will be challenged by others. I know we can't change everyone's mind, but there are so many people that are low hanging fruit that just need to have their cult practices shown in a concrete way...