Posts by Tater-T

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I think a lot of older (maybe younger ones) JW's are going to attempt/commit suicide....(READ)

by Joliette in

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i've been in lurkmode lately, but with the news that i heard about don cornelius dying, it had me thinking...as this world goes on, and people are coping with this world...i think a lot jw's are going to realize that the end of the world isnt coming...there gonna become more despert, the realities of having to work, pay off debts, etc.

a lot of jw's are going to realize that no magical sky daddy is come and 'take away there problems' and i think the more that they start to realize this, they get older, and there gonna start hating the reality that they have to face.

i had a good friend who's father-in- law (who was a ministrial servant) who had bipolar disorder, killed himself in his car back in 2007. it was sad.

Tater-T

Suicide.. my favotite topic has anyone seen the movie? 'How to die in Oregon' .. elderly are a great risk, my dad tells of my uncle who after his wife died and went blind... went in to his trailer and ended his life with a 44 caliber bullet

My dad say's he has a plan similar if he felt, circumstances were bleak enough.. I hope he doesn't... that being said, once it becomes enevitable, a grave out come is only possible, I believe you have the right to end your own suffering on your own terms.. nonviolently... with family present .. atleast they got to say good-bye..

as to the witlesses.. I have had similar 'fears'..... all cult's end badly.... speaking for myself I've had suicidal thought's, hold On! I'm not going to do it......I just hate that, that thought just pops in someimes as despair creeps in.. I'm the happiest depressed person I know.. my name is Tate it means the 'cheerful one' ...look it up... I've away's tried to live up to my name..LOL

I'm concerned to because after I finally learned the truth about the 'Truth'.. which was recently... I' was relieved that I finally knew!!!! I was out alone for 23 years believing the end was near.. I didn't care If i made it I JUST WANTED TOO SEE IT... it was killing me .. I rejoice in the fact that I never went back to meetings and resisted every temptation to do so.. I really believe the longer you are in the greater the damage.. therefore a greater risk of drastic action.... My awareness grew recently because 1914 was the everything to me.. as far as them... I'm really once it's debunked they got nada!!

tate the skate try not ot HATE..oops doesnt mean the bold accident.. don't know how to undo .. I'm new..

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Any one watch Season Six of DEXTER on Showtime.. The doomsday killers...

by Tater-T in

.. and all revelations stuff... it reminde me of the society ... when travis said to dr. gellar.." look at all the people they're all dead!

yikrs to familliar... so it did make me look to one of the only wts books around here..it's a red one... any way look up two witness in it .. cuz these two serial killers think they are... two paragraphs i new it was bs!!!.

back to dexter.. any way would love too talk, no one i know has showtime... face book page has two many people, although i did make a friend in aus, downunder..during season 2.. and i had some killer comments that got masive likes .. on requested takes... murder scenes from revelations.. where the killers were going to bring about the end .. by sacrifices.. murders.... so any one love a serial killer named dexter like me... i liken myself to him, it was how he has a dark passenger.... will talk any season, if you're behind on dvd.. the gal from aus, was behind tooo... l8r t8r.

Tater-T

yes! ST is one up on HBO.. For series.. But I must have Bill Maher, I dont think he is hostile enough..LOL I loved Religious, was wondering why he never bags on JWs though, Now I know they are not a Religion...it's like Amyway...LOL I wanna go on Bill's Show with NC, as an evil apostate couple..

HBO has a new series just last night, LUCK allstar cast.. looks good.. Eastbound & Down is up for another season, love it, but feel like a criminal for watching. lol

The Borgia's is up soon too... Can't wait!!! Shameless only seen the Pilot so far very good, just a little too good, I know what that feeling is like to need alcohol like that... I restuctured my drinking in 2003... So I don't like watching the hard alcohol scenes, but from what I've seen the show is an accurate portrail of such debachery!!

DVRing is a word.. Got said device for Damages in 2007, now I could live with out it...

Dexter!! ah the Dark Passenger.. best writting I've seen to date, .. @ New Chapter you have a pm.. I must have any current season Dexter fans as facebook friends tate the skate try not to hate the animal we ate...

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Hey Governing Body! Why Not A Trial Dedication?

by metatron in

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well, the latest yearbook tells a sad story: 263,131 baptized versus 294,368 in the previous year.. a nasty decline...... obviously, this situation calls for something fake and superficial to remedy it, governing body-style!.

the glorious masters of time and space discerned some malaise in the organization, so they cut hours for auxiliary pioneering and got a huge increase!

in previous years, they cut the minimum time per month needed to be a publisher from 1 hour down to 15 minutes!

Tater-T

Just proof that in the last days people's hearts will grow cold.

Of course, if the numbers had been reversed, it would be proof positive of how effective the preaching work is in the last days.

nice!! you know they know..nothing of what they are doing

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Another day, another apostate. Here's my story.

by I Want to Believe in

been lurking for a bit, and feel safe enough now to tell my story (condensed).. i'm a third-generation born-in, but my parents were inactive for most of my upbringing.

this means i got the worst of both worlds--no worldly friends (home schooled all but grades 2-3), no witness friends (since we never went to the hall except for memorial), and a generally isolated upbringing in a tiny, tiny town.

needless to say, my emotional, social, and personal growth were stunted.

Tater-T

welcome... I know where you are... except I was out for 23 years.. still believing the BS... just never looked into it till now.. I cant put it down... it's like Im an uber anti JW.. I just want to forget it all

Good luck tater

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90% of the space within an atom is dark matter

by soft+gentle in

this is what we were told in a recent public talk.

if true then it is very intriguing and may support the point being made in the talk that we know nothing compared to god.

the audience was spell bound and even i had to admit the young man gave an excellent talk.. i thought i'd come here to check the facts first though.

Tater-T

@ bohm... yes you are right, was thinking that as i wrote... it was anti matter.. they were talking about, my bad..

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90% of the space within an atom is dark matter

by soft+gentle in

this is what we were told in a recent public talk.

if true then it is very intriguing and may support the point being made in the talk that we know nothing compared to god.

the audience was spell bound and even i had to admit the young man gave an excellent talk.. i thought i'd come here to check the facts first though.

Tater-T

I heard that there was a equal amount of matter and dark matter, in the begining.. when they colide massive explosion.. there is a slight advantage to matter. all the dark matter is gone.. the universe is what is left.. this was an experiment with the particle colider, I saw on some science channel..

any way my 2cents..

late tate

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Had dinner with friends-found out none of got Baptized because we loved God

by PaintedToeNail in

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my spouse and i had supper with some long time friends this evening.

we got onto the subject of baptisim, and out of the four of us, we all got baptized for some other reason than love of jehovah.

i find this to be really sad.

Tater-T

I did it for love of jehovah... then I found out I had to love the watchtower more... so i got Df'd.. then went to meetings alone, for a year turned in my letter.. reinstatement.. and never went back to find out if they read it, figured i could make through the big A on my own!! and i did!

l8r t8r

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i am a regular pioneer in my cong reading crisis of conscience.here goes...

by MsGrowingGirl20 in

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i'm on page 90 right now...the info is definitely new and gives me a totally diff view as to how i used to think of faithful and discreet slave.

i was thoroughly disgusted with the way the brothers handled the oral sex and leadership problem and the insight on the scriptures book...... still have alot of questions though.

Tater-T

i just started reading it too... good for you!... becareful... it is shocking thats it's that bad!! I'm blown away!!

msgg pm...

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Preaching and Those With a "Right Heart Condition"

by thinking_1 in

aka "gullible, unquestioning, and at least somewhat uneducated".

this is one of those lines that really helps out when a jw runs into someone who know what they're talking about.. whether it's the bible, or scientific matters, or anything else where someone thy're talking to doesnt' agree with the teachings of "the slave", and has good reasonable points that they are trying to get across.. by telling the flock, and in turn the flock telling themselves that it's because of the persons "heart condition" and not their inability to accept the poor explanations and reasoning required to think like a jw, it insulates them from hearing too many facts that the teaching can't stand up to.. when they (probably unconsciously) sense that they are losing in a discussion, they can always tell themselves that the other person is unreasonable or has that pesky "bad heart"..

Tater-T

WTWizard is right on.. It is a lazy way to 'learn'....

It was good talking with you the other night... I thought about how much tougher it must have been being an Elders son and all..

my dad was Df'd for smoking... thank God!!!

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Suicide - How many do you know within the JWs

by Lady Lee in

thw wts likes to play games with their statistics.

one interesting but truly tragic is the number of jwhovah's witnesses who commit suicie.. now i suspect that if a person commits suicide shortly before or after they are disfellowshipped then the elders would say that person wasn't a witness or that they had done something so terrible that they were too guilty to admit it and by their action of committing suicide they pretty much declared they were no longer a jw.. yup fancy talk to make sure any crap didn't fall on them.. so my question.. do you know of cases like this?

if so then can you answer a few more questions.. had this person been dfed or in real danger of being dfed or whatever the equivalent is if they were never baptized?.

Tater-T

just one but they family questioned it,, saying he was clumbsy.. and really like to warm up his car... with the doors closed.. he was the son of everyones favorite elder.. I knew him as a child, then he wasa a local writer for the paper it wasa big news.. here in Boise ID..

Along with the sister who was Murdered By the Russian dance instructor.. I knew her real well.... She was a very sweat lady...