Posts by pale.emperor

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More money-grubbing: Give us your money even if you can't afford food

by bohm in

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the message would appear to be that jehovah needs money more than that old lady needs food:.

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pale.emperor

Notice how the "wayward" child has a beard?

Ah yes, when a young one wakes up and leaves it's "them" thats the problem and the parents who are suffering. No one mentions that the poor lad may have been kicked out of the family home here.

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Ridiculous ways you kept your "time going" in service?

by HereIgo in

i used to go out early mornings with 2 pioneer elders, we would drive 20 miles out of the territory (a big no-no) to look for hikers to preach to lol of course there were never any hikers.

then off to starbucks for another hour lol easy way to count 2-4 hours.

i am chuckling as i write this, what a joke!.

pale.emperor

I would blatantly make up hours on my slip. I did the same for my wife too (she never handed a report in, i'd do it for her).

I was doing about 5 hours a month (tops) but putting down 8 or 9. Never placed mags coz i never tried but i'd put something like 12 mags, 4 books.

I'd work with my brother in law or wife or mother in law and we'd just feather knock and walk slowly. It was an hour of hell and acting as if you were "into it" every time.

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Hello

by UnshackleTheChains in

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i decided to join this forum as have been lurking awhile.

there are lots of interesting topics on here that appeal to me.. i have been a witness for almost 3 decades and am very disillusioned with the organisation at this time.

i am beginning to see it in a new light as i am getting older.

pale.emperor

Hello UTC. Nice to have you here. There's some great people on here that have helped me since leaving. I look forward to your posts.

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What's The First "Worldly" Thing You Did When You Exited The Cult?

by pale.emperor in

when you finally and officially exited the cult, whether it be by disfellowshipping, disassociating or fading - what was the first things you did that are considered "worldly"?.

for me, it was like crash landing on another planet that looked like earth but was completely different to the earth i knew.

i wanted to learn everything that i thought i already knew.. first things i did:.

pale.emperor

Im growing marijuana. Got it down like a real science. Never used the stuff but for some reason growing it is so interesting and exciting for me.

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The J.W fishpond of marriage mates! How many of us married a idiot!! No choice.

by Witness 007 in

what a horror.

instead of there being "more fish in the sea" our marriage mates came from the small and crapy witness pond.

anyone got burned by going with mr or mrs you will have to do?

I married an elders daughter who had no idea what the religion is all about but somehow managed to get baptised. Marriage soured quickly due to her being a poster girl for gestapo type snitching they encourage you to do on your "loved ones". The only thing we had in common was that we were JWs. So since I faded she left. I'm now with a hot Portuguese girl that thinks I'm just the best thing in the world

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Counting time

by Emma in

i may not have put this in the correct spot, but i do think it's scandalous the way time gets counted now.

i've seen a cart at the edge of our farmer's market, never anyone close enough to talk.

yesterday was a drizzly day and there were two carts set up, covered in plastic, "witnessing" on their own.

pale.emperor

I remember when you couldn't count anything less than half an hour. Then they changed that rule to let you record 15mins. And lo and behold the number of hours shot up... it doesn't take a genius to realize that all those 15mins add up!!

Even when i was in i saw through that.

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What's The First "Worldly" Thing You Did When You Exited The Cult?

by pale.emperor in

when you finally and officially exited the cult, whether it be by disfellowshipping, disassociating or fading - what was the first things you did that are considered "worldly"?.

for me, it was like crash landing on another planet that looked like earth but was completely different to the earth i knew.

i wanted to learn everything that i thought i already knew.. first things i did:.

pale.emperor

When you finally and officially exited the cult, whether it be by disfellowshipping, disassociating or fading - what was the first things you did that are considered "worldly"?

For me, it was like crash landing on another planet that looked like earth but was completely different to the earth i knew. I wanted to learn everything that i thought i already knew.

First things i did:

Joined the labour party

Read The God Delusion by Richard Dawkins

Read Thus Spoke Zarathustra by Nietzsche

Caught the philosophy bug because of Nietzsche and read Sartre

Studied buddhism in a big way

Stopped praying before meals as i no longer believe in god/gods/goddesses (i still have to stop myself sometimes, it was so ingrained in my to pray before eating)

Watched the exorcist

Joined a life drawing class

Started studying for A levels

Charity work

It's safe to say that im a happier, more outgoing, more honest and content person since my exit. Even witnesses that are supposed to be shunning me have commented on the change in me. One even said "You look happy in this world. But arnt you sorry for leaving? You're acting like your not sorry." They're right. Im not sorry. Not at all.

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The Cult Guide To Raising Children

by pale.emperor in

something you're not likely to see in the "secret to family happiness" book.

the borg's guide to raising children:.

put the borgs needs, desires and agenda before the children every time, all the time.

pale.emperor

My mum used to snoop around my room when I lived there. One time when I got home she had a book shed found in my room in her hands waving it around annoyed and yelled "what's this your reading about evolution?!! Rubbish!! Trash!! Wisdom of men!!"

i said "mum, that's one of the society's books"

it was the book LIFE: HOW DID IT GET HERE? BY CREATION OR EVOLUTION?

So yeah, she was right : rubbish, trash, wisdom of men.

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According to one JW there can only be 1 of 3 reasons why you left.

by Bonsai in

i asked an old jw friend of mine why so many baptized individuals leave the jw religion.

"did it ever occur to you, old friend, that maybe they know something that you don't know and have valid reasons for leaving?

", i asked.. his response set me back for an answer.

pale.emperor

One elder answered up about the satanic, demonic thing that is hypnosis. Im actually well read in hypnosis and know what it is and what it isnt. The WT mags made silly claims and outright lies about it. It was then that i knew they were talking out their ass and decided to visit JWFacts. I binged for a whole day on there and came away feeling sad then angry then numb. Then read Crises Of Conscience and i was awake.