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  Is it possible that someone who gives really gushing comments might still be awake?

  by Isambard Crater in

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  2. friends

  of the 50% of congregants who regularly participate, many of them give gushing answers about how appreciative they are, how wonderful jw.org is and so on, which makes me think nobody in my congregation is awake.

  but maybe it's possible for someone who comes across as super spiritual to be awake?

  i can't see how, though, as surely it's emotionally draining to fake it like that?

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  This happens in North Korea, as it happened in Jim Jones's cult in Guyana, and in Nazi Germany. Come across as a "true believer" so you'll be left alone. Hey, you might even start believing it if you do it often enough.
  
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  Do You Know Any JWs That Were Wealthy AFTER They Became Witnesses?

  by minimus in

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  the only witnesses i knew that had money were those that either had family businesses or had money before they got into the religion.

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  I personally knew 2 who became millionaires while in "the truth". Both were elders. One owned a company that manufactures and sells sheds, the other was an investment banker who retired at the age of 45.
  
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  NEW LIGHT Regarding the feet of Iron & Clay. Can someone confirm?

  by pale.emperor in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  this appeared on my facebook today.

  can anyone confirm if this has official gb bullshit approval?.

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  Just did some research. This has "apparently" been the teaching since 2012. But I'm 95% sure it wasn't actually the teaching back then and they've edited the JW online library. Anyone still got an old CD Rom?
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  NEW LIGHT Regarding the feet of Iron & Clay. Can someone confirm?

  by pale.emperor in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  this appeared on my facebook today.

  can anyone confirm if this has official gb bullshit approval?.

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  Glad i kept my Revelation book now (albeit the updated 2nd edition). They were very clear and adamant on the UN being the baddies.

  Would also explain why they reminded the rank and file that the GB are neither inspired nor infallible. Sets them up for some new shite light
  
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  NEW LIGHT Regarding the feet of Iron & Clay. Can someone confirm?

  by pale.emperor in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  this appeared on my facebook today.

  can anyone confirm if this has official gb bullshit approval?.

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  This appeared on my Facebook today. Can anyone confirm if this has official GB bullshit approval?

  
  
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  Your Most Embarrassing Door Knocking Experiences

  by pale.emperor in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  if there's one thing we can look back on and laugh and tell our kids it's the fact that knocking on strangers doors at inopportune times results in some funny or embarrassing experiences.

  i'd be interested in hearing some of yours.

  here's some of mine to get the ball rolling:.

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  If there's one thing we can look back on and laugh and tell our kids it's the fact that knocking on strangers doors at inopportune times results in some funny or embarrassing experiences. I'd be interested in hearing some of yours. Here's some of mine to get the ball rolling:

  1. When i was about 10 i was working with my aunt. A very posh and prim and proper lady (think Hyacinth Bucket from British sitcom Keeping Up Appearances). We knocked on one door which was opened by a girl from my class in school. As awkward as that was it was made worse by my aunt saying "oh! you're in the same class?! maybe he could study the bible with you tomorrow in school?!!!"

  2. Working in a towerblock of flats in Kirkby, Liverpool (if you're from Liverpool you'll know why thats a bad thing). The guy who lived at number 66 had scratched another 6 into his door to make 666. My dad and I got that door. He knocked. All the other witnesses left us to it and went to the next floor because they were creeped out. The guy opens the door. Shaved head, bathrobe, little beard. He said "i knew you would come" and invited us in. My dad WENT IN saying to me "there's someone stronger with us than with him". Inside was painted skulls of different animals and a black cat. The householder rattled a box a cat teats and called "Satan! Come get your din-dins". We left. (This was my all most memorable story). My dad actually got in trouble with the elders for going in for some reason.
  

  3. Working with my sister, one man opened the door completely nude. She ignored his "thingy" and went into her demo.
  

  4. Working with an elder. Knocked on a door, hot girl opens, looks confused, laughs at me and then leaves the door whispers to her friends, they all laugh then all come to the door and asked me to start again. I wanted to die. Needless to say they took a mag which was probably read aloud at laughed at.

  5. Working with an older brother. The householder took one look at him and chased us down the path shouting obscenities at us. I assumed it was because the old brother was black... we found out years later the day after his death that it was because he was a known pedophile from the 1980s. Some of community knew of him but our congregation didn't (apparently).
  
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  Covering the territory

  by Ding in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  how often are jws trying to cover a given territory nowadays?.

  logically, they should be trying to cover the territory more and more often the closer armageddon gets, but it seems to me i see them out far less often than i used to..

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  Lots of publishers knock so quietly that nobody would ever know they were there. Is there a No Trespassing sign anywhere on the premises? Skip the house! Nobody at home? Leave a tract and forget about it!

  This is true! We actually had an announcement to not call on doors which said "NO COLD CALLERS" and "NO SALESPEOPLE". Then a few weeks later another announcement saying we should actually call on them because we're not selling anything, then a month later another announcement once again telling us not to call.
  

  Even when they are out, they will walk as slow as possible and stop frequently.

  Ever heard of Pioneer Pace? It's a real thing. You always know who the pioneers are because they wait about 5 mins per door and walk as slow as possible to the next one. It's not even said as a joke, they even say it about themselves. My ex-mother in law starts her time by handing a tract to a passer by on her way out - then goes to the meeting for field service (still counting her time) and by the time she's done her 2 hours on Saturday she tots down at least 3 hours or more. Combine that with pioneer pace and you soon get those hours. All perfectly acceptable nowadays to get your hours in.
  

  "People see us" or "Don't worry, Jehovah will draw sheep-like people through his angels, it's his work".

  Oh dear, i've heard this many times. Great excuse to not knock on a door that has a barking dog or a hot girl sunbathing in her front garden.
  
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  Governing Body of Jehovah's Witnesses launches worldwide campaign againt Russia

  by jwleaks in

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  2. scandals

  jehovah's witnesses mobilize global response to threat of ban in russia.

  march 21, 2017. https://www.jw.org/en/news/releases/by-region/russia/jw-mobilize-global-response-to-threat-of-ban/.

  new york—threatened with an imminent ban on their worship in russia, jehovah’s witnesses are responding with a direct appeal to kremlin and supreme court officials for relief through a global letter-writing campaign.

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  Even when i was a JW, i knew better than to send a letter to Mr Putin. Cant beleive they're asking them to do this. Remember the last fellow that pissed him off?

  https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Poisoning_of_Alexander_Litvinenko
  
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  Governing Body of Jehovah's Witnesses launches worldwide campaign againt Russia

  by jwleaks in

  1. watchtower
  2. scandals

  jehovah's witnesses mobilize global response to threat of ban in russia.

  march 21, 2017. https://www.jw.org/en/news/releases/by-region/russia/jw-mobilize-global-response-to-threat-of-ban/.

  new york—threatened with an imminent ban on their worship in russia, jehovah’s witnesses are responding with a direct appeal to kremlin and supreme court officials for relief through a global letter-writing campaign.

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  This is like history repeating itself. Remember when Rutherford wrote a letter the Hitler saying that the Bible Students are "pro-German" and "...are fighting for the very same high ethical goals and ideals which also the national government of the German Reich proclaimed..." http://www.jwfacts.com/watchtower/hitler-nazi.php

  This could backfire.

  In any case, this will be taken as further "proof" that the end is near and JW's are clearly the one true religion.
  
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  Not Inspired, Not Infallible

  by pale.emperor in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  it occurred to me this morning while one the train to work that jw's, including my family, use the following weasel phrases to excuse the errors they've made over the years:.

  "god uses imperfect men".

  "jesus didn't say he'd give perfect spiritual food".

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  It occurred to me this morning while one the train to work that JW's, including my family, use the following weasel phrases to excuse the errors they've made over the years:

  "God uses imperfect men"

  "Jesus didn't say he'd give perfect spiritual food"

  "The GB are neither inspired, nor infallible"

  "There are some who are corrupt but Jehovah will sort out his organization"

  Well isn't this true of every religion? As much as i dont like evangelicals shouting in the street about hell and Jesus i dont doubt their sincerity. I also think the pope genuinely believes he's gods representative on earth. Thomas S Monson of the Mormon Church and his 12 apostles are very sincere that they have the one true religion and that god is directing their lives.

  The idea that a perfect god would use imperfect men to write a perfect book for imperfect people to follow, which will be revealed in stages and eventually need supplementary magazines to add to it later which are not inspired but still must be followed as if it is - really makes my head spin.
  

  I wonder if any JW's are thinking this too? There must be some. Granted it's taken me 2 months to notice this since the Feb WT article said the GB are uninspired but im not the smartest man haha