Posts by pale.emperor

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Crossing the Elders

by Cold Steel in

few things draw my interest as much as people on this board who talk about the elders, the insidious little toadies who lurk around kingdom halls, the proverbial big fish in little ponds.

it amazes me the terror and the veneration they inspire, as well as the occasional ridicule.

it makes me wonder how they're selected and whether most of them come into the position with a sense of power, entitlement, authority and control, or whether many of them are pretty nice people and that i'm just hearing about the bad apples?

pale.emperor

From all my years as a JW and having met literally hundreds of elders, i can only think of two that i absolutely trusted. Knowing that they share information and are required to report to the CO made me think twice before telling them anything. I certainly never viewed them as more knowledgeable in the scriptures than anyone else.

My mother on the other hand regards elders as "stars in the hand of Jesus Christ" and treats them like royalty. I've dated two girls who's fathers were elders and my mum would go round telling all her friends in the congregation that my girlfriends father is an elder in such and such congregation.

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2017 Convention Video Remember The Wife Of Lot

by pale.emperor in

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u0qpoelk2r4.

the dad in this is a total douche.

i dont know if the videos have become more judgemental and culty in the year since i left - or maybe im just noticing it more?.

pale.emperor

On a side note, how did the dad get to be an accountant without attending university? - oh i suppose he did that before he was a JW. Good thing he did!

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RC 2017 - Videos of the FULL English Convention - all 17 hours

by darkspilver in

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the full english convention videos - 17 hours in total (includes all videos, demos etc etc):https://www.reddit.com/r/exjw/comments/6dvjl5/2017_dont_give_up_regional_convention_official/the programme listings:https://www.jehovahs-witness.com/topic/5695993188188160/_post/6017797521932288the talk outlines:https://www.jehovahs-witness.com/topic/5695993188188160/_post/6213656196939776the new releases:https://www.jehovahs-witness.com/topic/5695993188188160/_post/5686585930547200.

pale.emperor

I have no desire to sit through this crap voluntarily digitally or in person, i do want to keep up with their propaganda. I'll just wait until Lloyd Evans does a rebuttal. Or when the topics on here get heated about a particular talk.

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JW Grandparent Drama

by What Now? in

my mom and sisters have not had any contact with my family for the past year and a half.. we even recently announced a new pregnancy and none of them acknowledged it or called to say congratulations or anything.. this past week my non-witness grandfather passed away and i had thought that for the sake of his death and funeral, it being "necessary family business" that they would at least be civil in front of our other family.

all of them still ignored me, my sisters didn't even speak to my children at all - to be honest i don't think my kids even knew who they were.

for the sake of my grandmother i made a small attempt at the end of the day to say goodbye to my mother and she kind of just brushed past me and said goodbye without really looking at me.. anyways my grandmother told me later that my mom spoke to her and said "i love my daughter and i love my grandchildren and i'm so upset that she won't allow me to see them".

pale.emperor

Similar situation with me. My family are shunning me but cry and moan that they never see my daughter. They too are playing the victim "the whole family is suffering because of what you've done" etc

Unfortunately, my ex takes my daughter to visit every couple of weeks. I tell her not to but she does it behind by back anyway (no backbone).

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Baptized at a young age, homeschooled, and pioneered ...

by Wild_Thing in

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friends

and all of this by the time i was 14. i was the youngest person in my pioneer school.

was anybody else in the trenches (to this degree) at such a young age?.

i look back on it now and marvel at how isolated i was.

pale.emperor

When I was a JW I dated two girls that were homeschooled. Both were very defensive in the fact that they were homeschooled and both were always trying to prove they were clever and not stupid.

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So, you want to become a Jehovah's witness?

by nowwhat? in

ok your bible study wants to get baptised.

make sure he is aware of what's involved.

here is a checklist.

pale.emperor

Funny, all of the active JWs that try to call me a "lying apostate" on Quora say the the JWs are the fastest growing religion?

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2017 Convention Video Remember The Wife Of Lot

by pale.emperor in

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u0qpoelk2r4.

the dad in this is a total douche.

i dont know if the videos have become more judgemental and culty in the year since i left - or maybe im just noticing it more?.

pale.emperor

The look of horror on his face when his non JW family are over at his place. Is this how JWs are supposed to react now?

With the 2016 convention telling them to shun inactive family members, I think this is giving the subtle hint that you should only associate with JWs 100%.

The GB are turning up the heat. Fortunately not everyone will go along with that.

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2017 Convention Video Remember The Wife Of Lot

by pale.emperor in

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u0qpoelk2r4.

the dad in this is a total douche.

i dont know if the videos have become more judgemental and culty in the year since i left - or maybe im just noticing it more?.

pale.emperor

1:27:24 - has anybody ever received welcome like this from your KH? I never did in the 32 years i attended.

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2017 Convention Video Remember The Wife Of Lot

by pale.emperor in

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u0qpoelk2r4.

the dad in this is a total douche.

i dont know if the videos have become more judgemental and culty in the year since i left - or maybe im just noticing it more?.

pale.emperor

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U0qpoelk2R4

The dad in this is a total douche.

I dont know if the videos have become more judgemental and culty in the year since i left - or maybe im just noticing it more?

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Please tell me: what is a relationship with the "person" Jehovah like?

by Maryo in

does anyone out there know of any jws that have talked about what their personal relationship with jehovah was like?

for example, hearing his voice, a certain feeling?

an intellectual understanding?

pale.emperor

When i was a kid, i remember Jehovah being so real to me. I would pray to him in my head many many times in the day, it was like he was my best friend watching over only me. Unfortunately, this was nothing more than a child with an imaginary friend. Only mine was called Jehovah, he lived in the sky, he had a big white beard and only cared about me (first and foremost), then other JWs.

If you want to know how it feels to have a "personal relationship with Jehovah" all you have to do is imagine there's an invisible person floating over you. Talk to it all the time and give it credit when things go well and blame something else when things go wrong.