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  My Grandmothers Funeral

  by Enrique Tomlinson 1 in

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  my beloved grandmother has passed away and her funeral is next week at a kingdom hall.

  she was a loyal jw, and unfortunately i am not understanding of the funeral procedures.

  please could you kindly explain what what will happen in the funeral?

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  pale.emperor

  My condolences to you.

  Adding to what others have said here, they wont let you read a poem up on the platform in the Kingdom Hall. But it would be possible in the crematorium or burial site if you make your intentions known beforehand.

  Also be aware that in this time of grief, some well-meaning Jehovah’s Witnesses will more than likely use it as an opportunity to try and offer you a “free home bible study” and inform you that, as they believe, god promises an earthly resurrection where you can see her again.
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  Hats Off To Simon

  by ZindagiNaMilegiDobaara in

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  2. friends

  huge round of applause for simon (not every hero wears a cape).

  this is to say a huge big thank you,tons of appreciation and gratitude from me for simon for toiling away on his own dime for 20 years or so and keeping this site up and running .

  surely this site has helped tons of jdumbs n exjdumbs in their search for ttatt and freedom.

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  Yh, cheers Simon.

  This forum was practically therepy for me when I woke up. I still remember writing my first post with my heart pounding in my chest.
  
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  Do You Trump Should Have Exterminated That Poor Iranian Fellow?

  by minimus in

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  good move or bad?

  ?.

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  pale.emperor

  That poor Iranian fellow

  - gosh, that gave me a chuckle!
  
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  Annual Meeting 2019 - part one

  by TheFadingAlbatros in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  the jw.org organization looks every passing day more and more like a building firm made in usa:.

  https://www.jw.org/en/library/videos/#en/mediaitems/studiofeatured/pub-jwb_202001_1_video.

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  Also earlier in the talk it was mentioned they could live for all eternity and they all clapped. I genuinely don't think they have ever stopped to reflect on what that means.

  You know when you complete a computer game and you've no other games so you just keep freeroaming it over and over again? Soon gets boring doesnt it? That's the JW "new system" for you. Except in this one we're wearing 70s slacks, living in tree houses and passing fruit to people in national dress.

  Forever and ever and ever and ever and ever...
  
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  Adam could have put Jehovah In Paradox!

  by JohnTron72 in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  i'm going to be the first and throw this out there for others but, from careful study of the scriptures i've found a loophole that even adam who was perfect at the time missed!

  i'm sure everyone has heard the conundrum about ,"can god create a rock he can't lift?

  " and if he can't create one he can't lift, then god cannot do everything" well that doesn't really matter since we know jehovah says himself he cannot lie right?

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  As soon as I get to talking animals, that's when I know I'm reading a fictional book.

  
  
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  Creepy "Caleb & Sofia" Dolls On eBay

  by pale.emperor in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  so i'm on ebay looking for old jw books and i see this crap.... .

  i think some cheap person has taken poundland dolls, put kids clothes on them and have the cheek to flog them for $73.60 (plus shipping).. for one, they look nothing like them.

  and two, how creepy are these?!!

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  So I'm on eBay looking for old JW books and I see this crap...

  

  I think some cheap person has taken poundland dolls, put kids clothes on them and have the cheek to flog them for $73.60 (plus shipping).

  For one, they look nothing like them. And two, how creepy are these?!!!
  
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  Rec'd a letter from my Dad - need some advice...

  by Fadeaway3pointer in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  fader here - last meeting was in autumn 2005. lurker on this site and others.

  not one to get all controversial.. typical situation, pretty much a born in and left the church at age 38 and never looked back.. i'm 53 now, parents getting older - late 70s but very active, dad is still an elder.. parents, in laws, brother and brother-in-law still uber active jws.. my family (wife and 2 adult children) out since 2005.. we have stayed close to our parents - we have treaded religion lightly and have had a pretty good relationship and have kept our personal lives and beliefs/opinions separated from them.

  this was intentional - as we love them and do not want anything to cause shunning since they are getting older and want to be there for them and we respect their beliefs.. got this letter today.

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  What did Paul say about juding those outside?

  What did Jesus say about juding at all?

  Sorry to read that, mate. It sucks.

  I decided last year to always be nice and friendly to JW family even though they treat me like shit. Get on with living a good and decent life and always be there if/when those people leave themselves. I dont talk about religion at all to people who do (very rarely) talk to me. And I even sent non-xmas presents to my neices and nephew in December. One sister returned them to me, the other accepted them and thanked me.

  That's all you can do in this situation, take the high ground and be the kind one. I'd either ignore it or reply with a lovely loving letter signing off with "I love you no matter what religion you are".
  
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  147th Gilead prt. 3 - this could stumble people

  by neat blue dog in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  during gerrit loesch's talk just released, he goes on a long list of the false end times predictions throughout the millennia.

  i didn't expect it, but then he goes into the precursors to the bible students who, when their dates failed, changed christ's presence to have happened 'invisibly'.

  then it goes right into the jws, and he reads the quote from millions now living will never die about how we can 'confidently expect' the resurrection in 1925, and then the life everlasting book that predicted 1975. of course, he doesn't say how it's still going on, namely with the overlapping generation and its' accompanying convoluted chart, but still, this is more than they've ever said on the subject, especially recently.. it almost sounds like a forced statement, to address any backlash from people reading 'apostate lies' online, because he also says how the gb 'humbly' admitted mistakes, referencing the non-apology after 1975 that disturbed raymond franz.

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  Damage control is right.

  Now all those JWs who researched on the internet and discovered all this no longer need to feel worried and can talk about it openly.

  "See! The GB are open about the "adjustments in understanding". One sure sign that we can trust them and that this must be the truth."

  And so it goes on...
  
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  Does Anyone Elses PIMI Family Do A "Not Christmas" Day?

  by pale.emperor in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  i was told today that my jw family had a massive family gathering with presents exchanged, drinks and a big roast dinner.

  they even wore paper hats.. the day they chose for this family day?.

  26th december.. totally not christmas or anything - honest.. does anyone elses family do that?

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  I was told today that my JW family had a massive family gathering with presents exchanged, drinks and a big roast dinner. They even wore paper hats.

  The day they chose for this family day?

  26th December.

  Totally not Christmas or anything - honest.

  Does anyone elses family do that? It used to be "surprise day" for the kids in December so they wouldnt miss out when they went back to school but this is the first time I've heard of it being so blatant.
  
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  Poll: When my PIMI wife comes back from meeting. she is a different person. how many out there experience the same and why?

  by goingthruthemotions in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  so i am trying to understand if i am the only pomo that experiences the situation where the pimi spouse comes back from a meeting a different personanlity.

  it may not be obivious to the untrained eye, but i notice it and i know my sons notice it.

  this last round after all the loyalty bs and armagedon bs it's like she has stayed stuck in it.

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  I tend to see this more when they come back from the conventions. I remember after the last one I attended, 2015 my brother in law telling me on the Sunday evening that he's going to quit his job and pioneer, and he was full of euphoria. Not surprising due to the around of propaganda videos they show nowadays.

  If your PIMI wife stopped attending meetings for a while, perhaps due to a long holiday abroad she'd also gradually become a different person. In a good sense. I found my low moods and guilt evaporated when I stopped attending meetings and reading the literature.