Posts by Heartsafire

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"The Word" includes the book Vindication!

by Atlantis in

can you send me the quote where the watchtower said that the word includes the book vindication?

thanks a bunch!.

.. the quote is in the 1932 watchtower, april 1, pg.101, par.

Heartsafire

Atlantis, you are a treasure trove my friend. I love your posts and I always save these nuggets of truth you bring to the forum. Thanks😎

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One Year Later - A Thank You to Tony Morris.

by cappytan in

jw
friends

dear anthony morris, iii:.

i wanted to send you a note of "thanks" on this special day.. why is this day special, you may ask?

one year ago today, you, tony, woke me up to the fact that the governing body could not have jehovah's blessing or direction.. last year, on november 8th & 9th, 2014, the united states branch visit was broadcast to over 1,000,000 jehovah's witnesses across the country.. as i sat at the kingdom hall listening to the "historic occasion," i was ignoring certain doubts that had surfaced in the few months prior.

Heartsafire

I remember sitting through that spiel and feeling like the whole tight pants thing was totally weird. I mean, I personally haven't seen a brother strutting around in high waters with his bulge protruding. Usually, they're lucky to just find a suit from Goodwill in their size. Sheesh.

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Myth Dispelled! Leaving the Organization is NOT Leaving God

by LeftMyReligionToFindGod in

it's true, leaving the organization does not mean you leave god.

as someone who was raised in the "truth" i always heard the messaging that if you leave the organization you leave god and lose his protection.

after disassociating myself, i even believed that and began on a path of self-destructive behaviour as i was leaving behind every relationship i had ever known and very ill equipped to live in the "real world" growing up, i always felt there was a higher power and our purpose was more than living a few decades.

Heartsafire

I share your hope that other people will wake up to the fact that the WT is a mind controlling cult and nothing more. When I opened up the Bible and read it directly for myself I realized their teachings were total bogus. I love that you mentioned the tree of life as I would like to research that. Some of the most helpful books of the Bible, for me, have been the letters from John. He clearly tells us what is true and false teaching. Anyway, thanks for the post, and welcome to the forum.

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Fighting fire with fire?

by Crazyguy in

i have not said much to my youngest two kids about the jw crap ones 10 the other 5 .

anyway ive become an athiest and have studied alot about ancient religions.

so the question is should i try to teach my smaller kids that the bible is crap and so is thier god or would that be going to far?

Heartsafire

Sir 82, I am so sorry! Me and my fat thumbs gave you a dislike. I very much like your comment. Carry on🙃...

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Was my dad awake?!

by EyesOpenHeartBroken in

i am wondering if my deceased elder father was awake?

once we found out he was dying, i spent every moment i could with him, we were very close.

anyway, i offered to read to him a lot when he was resting.

Heartsafire

He was definately awake, and he sounds like he was a wonderful person too.

38

How have you felt since you learned TTATT?

by tornapart in

it's been 4 years since it happened to me.

an almost overnight experience.

i read ray franz coc in 3 days and that was it.

Heartsafire

And Congrats to you, Howie, by the way! 👍

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How have you felt since you learned TTATT?

by tornapart in

it's been 4 years since it happened to me.

an almost overnight experience.

i read ray franz coc in 3 days and that was it.

Heartsafire

My husband knows I don't believe the crap the Borg is peddling anymore. He shuts himself off by telling me that he doesn't want to know and that he doesn't care if the Borg is lying. (We've had a few "clear the air" conversations in the past couple weeks). So, the general feeling around my house is tension and deliberateness. But, I am still SO happy I know ttatt. It feels so good to shake off the guilt and fear spewing from their redundant lies and propaganda. Even though I feel stressed, I push the fear of family rejecting me out of my mind. Sure, when I finally complete my fade, perhaps they will shun me. But, maybe they won't. Or, maybe one person won't. I don't know what's going on in peoples' heads, so I'm not going to worry about that today. Basically, I try to avoid worrying about the future, and I indulge in comedy. A lot of comedy. Watching my favorite comedians and reading my favorite comic books keep my heart light. And, of course reading this forum:-)

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Suicide or Real Freedom? - My Story As One Of Jehovah's Witnesses

by dubstepped in

"sometimes i think the only thing i could do that wouldn't upset someone would be to kill myself.".

those were the frustrated words of my friend as we stood out in his large yard in the country, just about to enjoy a nice bonfire on a beautiful night.

what was it that could have been a lesser evil than killing himself?

Heartsafire

Mike,

I love your story! This touched my heart, and made me feel inspired and hopeful. I can completely relate to so much of it. So happy for you and Jenny.

HAF

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'Seek the Kingdom First' Economics

by Tornintwo in

jw
friends

has anyone else's family finances been victim to the 'seek the kingdom first' economic policy?.

for years, my husband and i have had our own business, my husband is not the most proactive guy, prefers to go in field service than to work, but he has always encouraged me to 'rely on jehovah and all these other things will be added to you', 'seek the kingdom first' etc etc.

there have been times, such as when i was heavily pregnant and we lost a big deal, that i have been begging jehovah on hands and knees to honour that promise, wondering why he wasn't helping us.

Heartsafire

Torn,

There are plenty of worldly people who are doing fine financially without Jehovahs help, so not to worry😊.

Have you considered consulting with a financial advisor? I sure have, and I totally recommend it. Find a pro, however, not Joe or Jane-Doe witness who handles finances in their basement.

Money trouble can be so stressful, and I'm sorry to hear you are worried about this. You sound like a hard-working woman, and I hope business improves for you. P.S. I mean no offense if you (or others) happen to be an independent financial consultant working out of your basement.

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Need advice

by Darkknight757 in

hi.i've been pouring over this site for the past few days looking for some advice and i hope there is someone here that can help a guy out.

i'm desperate.....short bio: i came into the organization after high school and shortly after married a wonderful girl who was born-in.we have been happily married now for nearly 20 years and things were well until 2015 hit.

by the way, i currently serve as an elder and have the ""privilege"" of being the "watchtower overseer".. either here nor there, we were told we would never have children but late last year my wife became prego!!

Heartsafire

Darkknight,

My heart goes out to you and your wife as you both grieve.

I totally understand how you feel about wanting out of the org as I am currently fading despite the fact that my husband is still very much in.

Everyone's situation is different in pulling off a successful fade. I am not certain the best route for you to go on this, but others here can help you as they have been elders/ms before. Given your wife's miscarriages, however, I could see this being a very acceptable reason in the eyes of the congregation for stepping down as an elder--depression, etc.

The way I have chosen to fade is by backing off on serve-us and meeting attendance and simultaneously focusing my time and attention on my husband and our relationship. At first it was hard but it's gotten easier with time.

Anyway, welcome to the site, and I wish you and your wife all the best.