Heartsafire

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  April 26 2016 God’s Kingdom Rules! to Be Considered at Congregation Bible Study

  by wifibandit in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  april 26, 2016 to all congregations re: god’s kingdom rules!

  to be considered at congregation bible study.

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  Heartsafire

  Shouldn't it be gods kingdom reigns instead of rules? This must be another rule book to be tossed out with old info in a year or two.
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  The Freedom to Learn

  by TheLiberator in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  since i have left the watchtower's dung behind, reading and learning has accelerated at an unbelievable pace for me.

  i am sure that is true for most here.

  i have always been a big time reader.

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  Heartsafire

  Congrats on digging deep. Keep it up and do spill what you find here. The JWs only teach faith to the Borg when you get right down to it. It gets easier and easier to point out the liberties they take in interpreting and adding to scripture. This WT study was a great example with false scenarios set up through "must have" and "would have" to explain certain biblical passages.
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  Socialism

  by Perry in

  1. social
  2. current

  socialists think that money will solve all man's problems.

  everything is obsessively related to money in the socialist ideology.. they have an almost supernatural ability to blame others with more money.

  god calls this greed and envy.

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  Heartsafire

  Hi guys! All I know is that my economics professor detests socialism and communism for America. No offense to you socialists and commies out there. Also, an economy that embraces capitalism promotes the growth of small businesses and entrepreneurs. I like that newbies who may get crushed by govt tax and red tape would get a chance to start their own businesses. When it comes to money, well, I think capitalism's focus is on growth business wise while socialism is more about spreading wealth around. Generalities, of course.
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  I COLLECT QUOTES. . . Here are some of my favorites

  by Terry in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  please post your favorites too.

  my favorite quotations:.

  you cannot change what you refuse to confront.. sometimes good things fall apart so better things can fall together.. don’t think of cost.

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  Heartsafire

  Great thread, Terry. Thanks for the quotes everyone. Ive smiled a lot today, and it's only morning, so I'm off to a good start. Here's a couple:

  Good Morning, I see the assassins have failed.

  -the Internet

  I have seen all, I have heard all, I have forgotten all.

  -Marie Antoinette
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  I would rather be in the JW cult than the ex-jw cult

  by questioningmyfaith in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  i have posted one other time on this website.

  just for the mere fact that i wasn't anger and bitter and ready to declare the gb the sociopathic criminals that so many here ascribe to, my initial question digressed to bickering over ad hominem attacks against the gb and not my beliefs that i'm questioning.

  some did give me some help on my questions.

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  Heartsafire

  Questioning,

  Sorry to hear you're feeling down about the site. There are days when I get the dreaded down votes too. I'm pretty sure everyone has. When I browse the website I try to take the helpful stuff and scrap the rest. This is the Internet after all, and it is full of all types.
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  Is this a site controlled by atheists?

  by The Rebel in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  under the exterior of being an ex- witness site, is this site simply converting atheism?.

  i pose the question, because many come here in distress and insecurity with the realization that the w.t is wrong but still retain a belief in god.

  my personal opinion is the threads on god are not challenged by an atheists personal animosity to believers, they are challenged and become confrontational because the atheist wants an elaboration and factual proof to a believers faith.. is this unreasonable?

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  Heartsafire

  Rebel, good point. I agree that people are often looking for support and understanding more than anything. Whenever I post a comment I try to be as respectful and understanding as possible. If I find I can't comment on a debate without getting all worked up, than I simply won't post or I wait until Ive chilled out and can post a comment without biting off someone's head.
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  Is this a site controlled by atheists?

  by The Rebel in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  under the exterior of being an ex- witness site, is this site simply converting atheism?.

  i pose the question, because many come here in distress and insecurity with the realization that the w.t is wrong but still retain a belief in god.

  my personal opinion is the threads on god are not challenged by an atheists personal animosity to believers, they are challenged and become confrontational because the atheist wants an elaboration and factual proof to a believers faith.. is this unreasonable?

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  I noticed right away that atheists on this site have no problem presenting their point of view. I don't think this is done out of a desire to stamp out belief in god so much as it is an invitation to believers to open their minds to new explanations supported by logic.

  When you are the type of JW who has been having to suppress your desire to explore topics such as evolution or the OT books being folktales a site like this one can be enlightening.

  I'm still a believer to an extent, but I no longer feel the need to use that belief as an emotional crutch or an explanation for why everything exists in the world.
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  2nd amendment right ... where should it end?

  by Simon in

  1. social
  2. current

  one thing i like to do to test a theory is to take things to extremes or to their logical conclusion to see if the premises still hold.

  very often, a claim that seems to make sense at a superficial level falls apart when you start to stretch it a little.. so let's play a game.. suppose the 2nd amendment is valid, that some "well regulated militia" really is necessary to hold the government to account.. obviously when this was drafted the government had access to the weapons of it's day which would be muskets!

  so muskets all round.

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  The second amendment is somewhat ambiguous as to the specific types of weapons a citizen may own by merely stating one has the right to "bear arms". Much law is written this way because it leaves room for further expansion and interpretation as time goes by.

  To answer your question, Simon, I do think that if we could correctly interpret the Second Amendment as it was intended (to avoid a monarchical rule such as the new nation had just escaped from) then yes, citizens would be allowed to own tanks, rocket launchers, missiles, etc. Obviously, your point that the SA is antiquated due to the development of weaponry never fathomed at the time of the founding fathers is a good one and a valid point because it isn't possible for any citizen to own most of the weaponry it would take to stop the US government should the government decide to, oh I don't know, let's say go SS and round up a race of people for death camps? It may sound far fetched, but the possibility of this occurring most likely scares more citizens than the threat of Joe Hillbilly shooting them.

  Here's my personal take on this--I do believe in better gun control, but private ownership is an important thing to so many Americans that it shouldn't be abolished.

  In today's world, technology/computers/hacking is really one of the most powerful weapons both for protection against a corrupt government and for the governments protection. But that's just how I see it.
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  Jehovah`s Witnesses an Old Testament Religion

  by smiddy in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  jehovah`s witnesses claim to be a christian religion , however looking at their history , publications ,such as the watchtower and awake mags., their conventions ,international ,regional ,local ,etc.their books pamphlets ,brochures ,etc.etc.

  you are hard pressed to find references to the new testament and references to jesus and his ministry .. they seem to be more focused on the old testament , and the god of the old testament.jehovah.

  even in their dramas at conventions , international and local events they are pre-occupied with old testament accounts and experiences , and not christian experiences , examples or ,lives to emulate .. they claim to be a christian religion and very seldom do they highlight the name of jesus , or his teachings , they are fixed on the old testament name of jehovah , and what he did in the old testament.

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  Heartsafire

  Smiddy, I too have always been baffled by the unyielding hyper-focus on OT especially when it comes to Jewish laws that somehow correspond with what WT wants people to do.

  Years ago I began to wonder why we never talked about worshipping Christ if we claim to be Christians. I read in the now out of print reasoning book that it is okay to worship Christ, yet that point is never discussed from the KH platform in depth, but of course, Jesus is just an angel, remember? Ugh.

  The org is neither Christian nor following Jewish law as it was intended to be followed. It's a weird conglomeration of a controlling business that poses as religion and interprets scripture however the GB wishes.
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  The memorial beauty pageant

  by BlackWolf in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  since the memorial is coming up soon and its about time for me to go shopping for a new memorial ( aka easter) dress, i've realized what the memorial really is for us teenage girls, a beauty pageant!

  the memorial is the day i spend painting my nails, curling my hair, and carefully applying makeup because my mother says i have to "represent jehovah" and look my best.

  in reality its just to impress the newcomers and to compete with the other girls.

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  Heartsafire

  Oh yes Black Wolf, I remember those days crystal clear. I was always the one who pushed the limit on my dresses. Skirts above the knees *gasp*.

  Some of the worst are middle aged sisters who are trying to prove they still "got it" by showing up in a second hand store prom dress. Oh what these eyes have seen. Wish I could wash them out with soap:-P

  TBH the sisters looking like frumpy Amish are no better. I'm tempted to show up in a pantsuit this year. Maybe in a skinny suit!