I feel so much freer along with much closer to Jehovah and Jesus now because I'm relying on them and not men.
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That's me at 5:05. I used to be a Regular Pioneer & 4th generation witness.
Posts by Perry
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35My first post: Pet Peeves from my JW past
by BarHarborBarbara infirst post here: longtime lurker but hesitant to take the leap.
my story is pretty much like everyone elses with little variance, but i thought id add a few details that especially tormented me when i was in.
im sure these are familiar, im afraid this is a bit of a rant.. --paradise: the constant chatter about a perfect world when most in the hall were not even slightly interested in taking care of the earth now.
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Visited Baptist church on Easter
by snakeface ini live in a rural area; in field service we had to drive from house to house.. i have not had any desire to visit any church for several years now.
saturday i was doing chores in my yard - washing the car, etc.
- and 2 ladies drove in, dressed like witnesses would be dressed.
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Perry
First time I went to an independent baptist church, the preacher blew my mine and my wife's hair back. Wow! Is all I could say.
We found one a little closer to home (not quite as dramatic) and went there for three years. Made some great friends we still keep in touch with.... including Pastor and wife.
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Any Suggestions on what to say if elders ask why you stopped going in FS?
by BU2B ini was curious what might be some good things to say if i am questioned by the elduurs about my decline in fs.
anything too honest may get me a jc (although that would be for the best in the end..) the co visit is this week so they may be getting more agressive than usual.
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Perry
Tell them that if they can show you even one NT scripture showing how a person can have their sins forgiven outside of the NEW COVENANT, you are willing to have something to preach about at the doors. If they can't, what is there to talk about?
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What exactly did Jesus say when he meant Eternal Life?
by MissConfused insaw a movie - 'gospel of john', recently.
had some questions:-.
1) when jesus said come follow me and you will get eternal life, what did that mean?
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Perry
Is it as simple as just believe him and there is a place booked in paradise for followers?
Yes. But the key is to believe Jesus alone. Trust in him alone.
"Sirs, what must I do to be saved? 31 And they said, Believe on the Lord Jesus Christ, and you shall be saved, and your house." - Acts 16
" That if you shall confess with your mouth the Lord Jesus, and shall believe in your heart that God has raised him from the dead, you shall be saved. 10 For with the heart man believes to righteousness; and with the mouth confession is made to salvation. - Romans 10
The offer from God is nullified by trusting in him and another object of salvation..... like we did with the Watchtower, or like other groups do with their churches or church leaders.
If you will put on Christ like a parachute and trust in him like a parachute, you will be saved from judgment, and be ushered immediately into heaven with God at death. Later, you will get your body back, only better at the resurrection.
However, you cannont put on a parachute and then rely on flapping your arms to help the parachute. Or, you cannot trust in the parachute and at same time trust in the plane that is going down.
It doesn't work like that.
One act of disbelief sold us into sin and death, and because of the blood payment, one act of belief gets us freedom and life. One we had no control over, .... one we do. Because of Jesus, we have the same choice Adam and Eve faced in the beginning - whom to believe.
Many will testify that just asking God to give them this belief will get the relationship going. It did for me.
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1 John 1.9
by quellycatface inshame the jw's don't take much notice of this scripture.. the key of christian faith.. hope everyone had a peaceful weekend.
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love qcf x.
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Perry
You must be thinking of a different Reformation, Perry. :P In my mind, that was a 'continuation' of the Dark Ages ... it was just as brutal as the Inquisition.
The Reformers made great strides in bringing biblical christianity into the mainstream. However, they were not the originators of biblical christianity, they were just politically connected and thus magnified its precepts. Neither did they do this without error, or go far enough. They got most of their ideas from the indiginous Christians of Europe who were called by a number of derogatory names and who were also the objects of much of the inquisitions and Papal bulls.
Groups like the Waldenses, Albigenses, Anabaptists and others were originally aligned with the Reformers until it became politically expedient to also alienate these groups.
A good read on this is The Reformers and Their Stepchildren.
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Brooklyn Bethel in the 1940 census
by dissonance_resolved inprompted by another post, i looked up 124 columbia heights in the 1940 census.
a few interesting things: all occupants are listed as having the profession of "sell- religious books," except rutherford who is listed as an "editor.
" odd that they aren't listed as ministers.. also, all the educational levels of the occupants were provided- many had not even graduated high school and some not even grammar school.
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Perry
F Franz C4
Franz was a college drop-out. That is verifiable. The C4 designation is either misleading or false.
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Jesus gets married AFTER Satan is destroyed - NOT after armagedon!
by bruh2012 inin an effort to prove that jesus' marriage is after armagedon, the wt study for this week said that the visions in revelation are not in chronological order.
rev 18- fall of babylon the great-.
rev 19 starts with "after this" then it speaks on armagedon-.
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Perry
The marriage of the lamb parallels a traditional jewish engagement / wedding process. Widely accepted view here.
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Proposed Apostate takeover campaign
by zound infictional apostate takeover campaign.
stage #1.. what if in a town that had a particularly large amount of apostates and ex-jw's, over a period of a few months, they started going to a small congregation.
either pretending they were bible studies or just returning jw's, they got good standing in the congregation, priveleges etc.
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Perry
Interesting zound. However, if I might point out - that we HAVE NOW " a bunch of fully apostate congregations continuing to expand".
Wouldn't is just be easier to educate some local churches about how to avoid the typical JW memorizations and actually share the fact there is no salvation in in other name than Jesus?
Neither is there salvation in any other: for there is none other name under heaven given among men, whereby we must be saved. - Acts 4: 12
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1 John 1.9
by quellycatface inshame the jw's don't take much notice of this scripture.. the key of christian faith.. hope everyone had a peaceful weekend.
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love qcf x.
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Perry
I agree Qcf.
It is a shame that after the long dark ages ended by the Reformation that so many would return to certain practices of the Catholic Church - the confessional.
It is not a priest or elder body that makes me clean.
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"That Man" is the Judge
by Perry inbecause he hath appointed a day, in the which he will judge the world in righteousness by that man whom he hath ordained - acts 17:31. .
in all my years of field service (started doing my own presentations at the doors at age 5) it never dawned on me that jesus was the one who was going to judge mankind, not me and my wt literature.
i was told that i was involved in a marking work (the writers inkhorn was taking notes).. .
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Perry
Because he hath appointed a day, in the which he will judge the world in righteousness by that man whom he hath ordained - Acts 17:31
In all my years of field service (started doing my own presentations at the doors at age 5) it never dawned on me that Jesus was the one who was going to judge mankind, not me and my WT literature. I was told that I was involved in a marking work (the writers inkhorn was taking notes).
Oh, how I judged those that were disrespectful to me. Idolatry is some nasty stuff.