Posts by Perry

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Just wanting to hear experiences.

by joe134cd in

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it's funny how my mind works since walking out of the hall just a bit over a year ago.

for some reason i just can't seem to bring myself to go to the jw.org site.

i find it just to painful.

Perry

The notion that a "loving" God saves me by having his son spill blood is archaic and more than a little mad.

Steve,

The wages of sin is death and eventual judgment. This is the answer that my college professors did not want to face as they taught me about "the problem of evil".

I was a virtual atheist when I noticed the near obsession of my philosophy professor, in attacking Christian arguments. After leaving the JW's I assumed that most educated people wouldn't even waste their time with biblical arguments. I was VERY MUCH surprised to see Christian ideas attacked so feverently at university.

From God's point of view, there is no "problem" of evil.

The professor was forced to first explain Christian arguments in order to destroy them. Most of the Christian arguments I never knew about as a JW. This really piqued my interest. I found many of the Christian arguments sound and reasonable. I owe a great debt to my atheist professors and the atheists on this very discussion board for helping me to clearly see the competition as a choice, a not the necessary default view I once believed it to be.

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My JW friend turned down the "privilege" of working the literature table at the park. Why?

by MissFit in

i have written before about my jw friend that plays hookie with me on sundays.

we skip the meeting and go straight to lunch and margaritas.

she converted later in life and has been a jw for over 25 years.. she is in her late 70's and has had heart problems.

Perry

Perry? I dont understand. Why does she need a savior if Jehovah can read her heart?

Because when he looks in there he won't find Jesus (and his righteousness). He will only see her righteousness, and the "righteousness" of the Watchtower Corporation, both of which are an abomination to God. This will force God's hand to judge her instead of loving her as his daughter.

But we are all as an unclean thing , and all our righteousnesses are as filthy rags - Is. 64:6

As it is written, There is none righteous, no, not one: - Roman 3: 10

And be found in him, not having my own righteousness, which is of the law, but that which is through the faith of Christ, the righteousness which is of God by faith: - Phi. 3: 9

There remaineth therefore a rest to the people of God. For he that is entered into his rest, he also hath ceased from his own works, as God did from his. - Hebrews 4: 9 & 10

"God raised Him up on the third day and granted that He become visible, 41 not to all the people, but to witnesses who were chosen beforehand by God, [that is], to us who ate and drank with Him after He arose from the dead. 42 "And He ordered us to preach to the people, and solemnly to testify that this is the One who has been appointed by God as Judge of the living and the dead. - Acts 10

This is why this poor lady needs a Savior. Each of us on this planet has business that must be conducted with a man named Jesus from an obscure village named Bethlehem. God has allowed us the freedom to do it in this life or the next. However, a person will never be able to cease being conscious, whether in the body or not. We will live with our choices that we make in this life for eternity.... consciously. We can choose the works based ideologies from the watchtower to humanism to mormons, to buddahism ...you name it; Or, "we can enter the rest of God" and rest from our works.

Each of us should choose wisely.

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Post some niceness ! There is too much negativity in the world.

by new hope and happiness in

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friends

so here we are on a niceness thread talking about nice things.. yesterday a very pretty girl left her mobile behind at the computer in the libary, i returned it to her and she gave me a hug.

.

Perry

For Everyone

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My JW friend turned down the "privilege" of working the literature table at the park. Why?

by MissFit in

i have written before about my jw friend that plays hookie with me on sundays.

we skip the meeting and go straight to lunch and margaritas.

she converted later in life and has been a jw for over 25 years.. she is in her late 70's and has had heart problems.

Perry

She tells me that her faith in Jehovah is what gets her through and that she trust HIM to read her heart.

That's the problem, Jehovah DOES read the heart. That's why this poor dear needs a Savior.

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Post some niceness ! There is too much negativity in the world.

by new hope and happiness in

jw
friends

so here we are on a niceness thread talking about nice things.. yesterday a very pretty girl left her mobile behind at the computer in the libary, i returned it to her and she gave me a hug.

.

Perry

Here is some niceness:

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Help me help my DF'd friend

by OneEyedJoe in

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friends

so i got a text from a friend of mine today telling me that he'd been df'd.

since i'm still nominally a witness, this puts me in a tricky spot.

i intend to tell him in no uncertain terms that i will not shun him, but i'm not sure where to go beyond that.

Perry

there's just this huge waste of time in our life. I don't know if she'd turn me in, but she probably wouldn't like it if she knew I wasn't shunning him, but I can deal with that.

I see. I believe that you have suffered from weak abdominal muscles (see chart above) but are starting to strengthen them. Please continue process.

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Help me help my DF'd friend

by OneEyedJoe in

jw
friends

so i got a text from a friend of mine today telling me that he'd been df'd.

since i'm still nominally a witness, this puts me in a tricky spot.

i intend to tell him in no uncertain terms that i will not shun him, but i'm not sure where to go beyond that.

Perry

I'm sure those of you who've gone through this before (on either side) will be able to help immensely.

Are you in good standing?

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Just wanting to hear experiences.

by joe134cd in

jw
friends

it's funny how my mind works since walking out of the hall just a bit over a year ago.

for some reason i just can't seem to bring myself to go to the jw.org site.

i find it just to painful.

Perry

Well I guess that gives away how long I stayed to check it out.

Oouch, nasty stuff.

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New Testament Words : Sermon of the Mount ,Persian couriers and enforced slavery in one word?

by raymond frantz in

what does the word compel mean in matthew 5:41?jesus said on the sermon of the mount :" if someone in authority compels you into service for a mile, go with him two miles.

how could anyone compel you to do such a thing ?

read about the fascinating history of the word "aggareuein" and how that connects so diverse things such as persian couriers ,romans councelors and enforced labour.

Perry

Perry, please stay with birds. I got the message.

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New Testament Words : Sermon of the Mount ,Persian couriers and enforced slavery in one word?

by raymond frantz in

what does the word compel mean in matthew 5:41?jesus said on the sermon of the mount :" if someone in authority compels you into service for a mile, go with him two miles.

how could anyone compel you to do such a thing ?

read about the fascinating history of the word "aggareuein" and how that connects so diverse things such as persian couriers ,romans councelors and enforced labour.

Perry

Didn't you just post this exact same thing somewhere else?

Didn't get the response you felt it was deserved? I understand. Recentlly I posted an absolutely amazing video of people sorting cobras for a snake show. Not one post.....can you believe that?