Posts by Perry

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Feeling indifferent

by campaign of hate in

jw
friends

right now, at this point in my life, i feel like i should be angry, sad, upset, annoyed, whatever emotion that most of you guys here feel or have felt.. but the overwhelming feeling i get, and i have got since waking up, is indifference.. i think that this might be my subconscious coping mechanism.

when i go to the meetings or take part in any other wt related activity, i don't care.

i just really couldn't care less.. i mean, i do care, but i think it's more a fascination now about the whole thing.

Perry

Is this normal? I've been thinking maybe it's depression?

Sounds like "Emotional Shutdown". I experienced this when I determined that the WT system could not create victory in my life. I worked it hard for 8 years and just ended up emotionally shutdown, just turning the treadmill.

I think most ex JW's will concur that the organization as a whole has a mechanical, even robotic characteristic to it. Mechanical, robotic behavior is a characteristic common with those in prison. Find the Lord Jesus Christ and you'll find freedom.

2 Corinthians 3:1 (KJV)

17 ...where the Spirit of the Lord is, there is liberty [Freedom].

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Common lie told by Jehovah's Witnesses

by Watchtower-Free in

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Perry

Are they deliberately lying or do really believe what they are saying ?

They do lie, but reason that it is for your own good I suspect. It is kinda like when Satan told Eve that she would not die, even though God said she would if she ate the fruit. He probably reasoned that it was for her own good so she could escape the horrible evils of the garden of eden and experience the beauty of slavery to sin and death.

Similarly, when Jesus offers his covenant for the removal of sin and it's penalty death in Mt. 26:27,28 the Governing Body explains to everyone that Jesus's wasn't talking to you , just them. They get to be declared righteous and have immortality, but everyone else has to work for it the rest of their natural life and 1000 years in the Millennium to get it.

God says:

"And whosoever will, let him take the water of life freely."

...for by the works of the law shall no flesh be justified. - Gal. 2: 16

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Jehovah's Witnesses Are Believers But Know Not What They Teach

by minimus in

jw
friends

they simply belong to a religion.

they cannot explain why they follow all the dictates of the organization.

they live in blind faith.

Perry

This is the part JW's don't get:

"Jesus didn't come to make bad people good, he came to make dead people live."

- C. S. Lewis

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Pick your belief system

by Giordano in

i think we've all noticed a ton of newbe's these past months.

one part of escaping or thinking about escaping the jw's is coming to terms with what you believe now and/or what direction you are leaning towards.. here is a site that has a quick quiz that may be of some worth or just for fun.

i took it when i first signed on here and the results surprised me because it was pretty accurate.. you don't have to sign up for anything and when you finish you will get a percentage answer on 20 major belief systems.

Perry

The greatest man in history is named Jesus. Had no servants, yet they called Him Master. Had no degree, yet they called Him Teacher. Had no medicines, yet they called Him Healer. He had no army, yet kings feared Him. He won no military battles, yet He conquered the world. He committed no crime.. Yet they crucified Him. He was buried in a tomb, yet He lives today.

- Unknown

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Jaw Bone of the First Man in Ethiopia Lived.... When?

by Slidin Fast in

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/science-environment-31718336.

so this jaw bone of early man has been dated at 2.8 million years old.

that means that given a margin for error and allowing an unknown but short period of time for adam naming the animals the 1000 years starts in ummm, eerrr.

Perry

One scientific publication makes this statement:

Monkeys live all over the world and come in various shapes, sizes and colors.....Monkeys are as varied in shape and size as humans.

I suspect that Peking Man will one day go the way of the other "men" snake oil salesmen paraded before us. Piltdown man had over 500 scholarly papers written about it by "smart" men before it was trashed as a hoax. - (Nature vol. 274, #4419 (10 July 1954) pp. 61-62)

This little fellow might one day be named "Pinocchio Man".

Proboscis monkey

...the wisdom of this world is foolishness in God’s sight. As it is written: “He catches the wise in their craftiness” and again, “The Lord knows that the thoughts of the wise are futile.” - 1 Cor. 3: 18

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Jaw Bone of the First Man in Ethiopia Lived.... When?

by Slidin Fast in

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/science-environment-31718336.

so this jaw bone of early man has been dated at 2.8 million years old.

that means that given a margin for error and allowing an unknown but short period of time for adam naming the animals the 1000 years starts in ummm, eerrr.

Perry

"Knowing that scientists are highly motivated by status and rewards, that they are no more objective than professionals in other fields, that they can dogmatically defend an idea no less vehemently than ideologues and that they can fall sway to the pull of authority allows us to understand that, in Goodstein’s assessment, “injecting falsehoods into the body of science is rarely, if ever, the purpose of those who perpetrate fraud. They almost always believe that they are injecting a truth into the scientific record.” - Scientific American

Finkelstein, Are artists any different?

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Jaw Bone of the First Man in Ethiopia Lived.... When?

by Slidin Fast in

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/science-environment-31718336.

so this jaw bone of early man has been dated at 2.8 million years old.

that means that given a margin for error and allowing an unknown but short period of time for adam naming the animals the 1000 years starts in ummm, eerrr.

Perry

CARM

Christian Think Tank

Vivane, I have researched all of your issues and come to different conclusion.

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Jaw Bone of the First Man in Ethiopia Lived.... When?

by Slidin Fast in

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/science-environment-31718336.

so this jaw bone of early man has been dated at 2.8 million years old.

that means that given a margin for error and allowing an unknown but short period of time for adam naming the animals the 1000 years starts in ummm, eerrr.

Perry

Vivane,

This is not about you. It's about a jawbone. Make up your own mind. I'm unconvinced.

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Jaw Bone of the First Man in Ethiopia Lived.... When?

by Slidin Fast in

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/science-environment-31718336.

so this jaw bone of early man has been dated at 2.8 million years old.

that means that given a margin for error and allowing an unknown but short period of time for adam naming the animals the 1000 years starts in ummm, eerrr.

Perry

Believe what you want Vivane. I'm unconvinced. It looks identical to my molars. That's my qualifications.....common sense.

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Jaw Bone of the First Man in Ethiopia Lived.... When?

by Slidin Fast in

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/science-environment-31718336.

so this jaw bone of early man has been dated at 2.8 million years old.

that means that given a margin for error and allowing an unknown but short period of time for adam naming the animals the 1000 years starts in ummm, eerrr.

Perry

Juvenile jaw bone without the wisdom teeth seems more likely than Village Idiot's assessment.