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  On the Relevancy of The Institutionalization of Sin

  by Perry in

  1. watchtower
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  child murder, sodomy & corrupting the human genome are not new sins, they are old ones.

  what is new is their institutionalization.

  but even that isn't totally new.

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  DJS,

  Its relevancy is drastically diminished when compared to our TOTAL inability to cease consciousness when we die.

  No one will be able to stop being aware, ever.
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  On the Relevancy of The Institutionalization of Sin

  by Perry in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  child murder, sodomy & corrupting the human genome are not new sins, they are old ones.

  what is new is their institutionalization.

  but even that isn't totally new.

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  Child murder, Sodomy & corrupting the Human Genome are not new sins, they are old ones. What is new is their institutionalization. But even that isn't totally new. It's all happened before..... before the flood and in Sodom & Gomorrah.

  With the SCOTUS ruling on Friday, there is going to be a lot of professional victims out of a purpose. Where does a PV go to from here?

  What's on the Horizon?

  
  

  This legally married homosexual couple in Massachusetts added another woman to their marriage and had lawyers draw up a legal agreement since three-way homo marriage is still coming down the court house pike. This is exactly how homosexual unions/marriage got started.

  This of course will lead to three (or more) parent babies, which is already legal in the UK:

  
  

  And there is still the horizon of transhumanism with animals and machines and then boldly forward onto posthumanism.

  The below paragraph was copied from an opening post on another thread:

  To be blunt, you shouldn't listen to me, except when I make appeal to common sense, logic, reason, science, and Scripture which you agree with in your heart and in your mind. After all, you don't need to be a rocket scientist or have a college degree in order to know what is right and wrong, and to have good morals and ethics. In fact, you don't even need to be religious to be a good, moral person.

  I see a lot of Christians making similar arguments. The problem is when you appeal to authority other than scripture there is no difference from your opinion than anyone else.

  I am against practicing homosexuality for one reason only, God says no. I am certainly against the institutionalization of it for the same reason, and no other. God also says no to adultery and a number of other things that some people find pleasurable.

  When I left the Watchtower I trusted no one, most of all God. I placed my trust fully in myself for many years. It solved some issues, but on balance it created more problems than it solved. I came to realize that it was not within my constitution to be the final arbiter of right and wrong. I just couldn't see far enough down the road and I couldn't trust the things that I thought I did see.

  
  

  Things looked clear enough, but I would find out the hard way that A & B really are the same shade like God said they were, even though they appeared so different to me.

  Eventually, after accepting Christ's New Covenant, I found out that God's Yesses far outnumbered his No's. I have found God to be a very kind and patient gentleman after making friends with him through the blood of Jesus.

  But my testimony, scripture and even morals or ethics are not the ultimate reason to believe God. The ultimate reason to believe God is because you were created in his image, in his likeness. The eternal God made man with an eternal consciousness so that no matter what... they could enjoy each other's company forever.

  Just because we disagree with God from time to time doesn't create a work order for God to destroy our eternal soul/consciousness. Whether we choose to enjoy God's fellowship through the blood of Christ and the rebirth or not; it doesn't change our "eternalness" that is fundamental to our nature and construction. It does however change where we will spend eternity and with whom.

  Imagine being in an uncomfortable situation void of all comforts for ever and ever and ever and ever.... unable to cease being conscious - for eternity.

  God, in his wisdom gives people what they want..... complete freedom in him, or from him.
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  The first 4000 years Jehovah communicates with humans,the next 2000 years is given to Jesus and he communicates with no one.

  by smiddy in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  the bible has ample evidence of god communicating with humans during the first 4 centuries.. since jesus time ,god has not communicated with humans at all .,in the same way as he did in the first 4 centuries .. in fact jesus has not communicated with humans in the same way as jehovah did for the first 4000 years., during his 2000 years to this date , .

  does not the bible say , god does not change , he is the same today as he was yesterday and will be tomorrow ?.

  so why was god communicating with humans on a regular basis , one way or another for 4000 years and then , neither jehovah or his son jesus christ ever directly contacted humans ?.

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  We have not heard a word from Jesus these past 2000 years .

  Biblical, historical 1st century type Christians are born again with a new spirit. This new spirit is sinless and so provides a foothold for the eventual redemption of the whole tripartite man: Spirit, Soul & Body. God interacts directly with the new spirit in a born again believer. Much more efficient than talking into a persons' ears.

  Jesus said that when the Holy Spirit comes, that he would instruct born again believers into all the ways of truth.

  The cross was God's final word on mans' attempt at being good. Not a lot to talk about after that.
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  Cart Witnessing - Thrilling! Productive! Epic! Er.....um, well, not so much.....

  by sir82 in

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  talked with a pioneer recently, she was recounting her first experience with cart witnessing.. she brought the subject up, was going on & on & on & on about how wonderful the experience was, and how great, and how she enjoyed it so much, and it was so wonderful, and oh jehovah's blessing, and on and on and on...... a few questions to her revealed what really happened:.

  -- a jw who owns a small restaurant in a strip mall allows jws to set up their cart outside his restaurant.

  -- the restaurant is tucked pretty far out of the way, not prominent at all.

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  This fine young publisher has just received several hours of hapifying cart training.

  
  
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  Fascinating Presentations of Jesus' Dynamic Teachings Coming Soon

  by Perry in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  public perception a problem for jws.

  monday, june 8, 2015.

  a christian apologist says christians should use discernment when dealing with jehovah's witnesses, who have recently launched a massive worldwide proselytization campaign.. throughout this summer and continuing through january 2016, jehovah's witnesses are holding thousands of "imitate jesus!

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  Public perception a problem for JWs

  Monday, June 8, 2015

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  A Christian apologist says Christians should use discernment when dealing with Jehovah's Witnesses, who have recently launched a massive worldwide proselytization campaign.

  Throughout this summer and continuing through January 2016, Jehovah's Witnesses are holding thousands of "Imitate Jesus!" conventions in 92 countries. The program, organized by the Governing Body of Jehovah's Witnesses, is being presented in nearly 350 languages. According to a release, the gatherings promise three days of "fascinating presentations of Jesus' dynamic teachings, designed to help people of all ages and circumstances."

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  In line with this push to highlight Jesus, consider:

  I am Jehovah. That is my name; I give my glory to no one else - Is. 42: 8 (NWT)
  

  Jesus answered: “It is my Father who glorifies me, the one who you say is your God." - John 8:54 (NWT)
  

  How can Jehovah glorify Jesus when he states emphatically that he gives glory to NO ONE else? Jesus answers, "I and my father are one."

  Will this be one of those "fascinating presentations of Jesus dynamic teachings" that will be highlighted by the Watchtower?
  
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  Charity

  by aintenoughwiskey in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  we know the wt interpretation of matt 25:40 is support of the anointed.

  since most of us here are no longer in that situation, what, if any forms of charity are you involved in?

  sorry for the awkward framing of the question, it's not meant to imply atheists, or non-christians are not charitable!

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  When I formed a new company a few years ago, I found a small ministry to orphans in the Ukraine to support from the success of the business. The ministry builds additions onto houses and plugs kids into already functioning families, mostly local pastors. They take up to 10 kids per family. The state just warehouses the kids and turns them loose at age 16 or 17. Drugs and sex traffickng gobble up many of the orphans upon release. It also runs a nice bible school there.

  It has been wonderful to see pictures of smiling kids and to get updates over the years.

  http://www.slavicbaptistmission.org/uploads/1/3/8/9/13891775/5853208_orig.jpg
  
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  Prayer

  by TheWonderofYou in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  dear lord jesus,.

  let me be a friendthat when i need a friend somewheni will be not alone.. jesus, my saviour, my truth, my life,be my friend if i dont understand your wordand sometimes am confused.

  be my friend in the stormy time,let me trust and believe in your mercy.dont let me judge about wheat and weedbut trust in your heart.

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  Nice Prayer. IM me if you ever need to talk to a Christian with a JW background.

  About prayer to Jesus:

  1. Stephen prayed to Jesus just before meeting him.

  2. Jesus said, "Come to me" all you that are heavy laden and I will give you rest.

  3. The thief being executed next to Jesus asked him for life and it was granted

  The New Testament form of Christianity is all about coming to Jesus

  Whosoever drinketh of the water that I shall give him shall never thirst; but the water that I shall give him shall be in him a well of water springing up into everlasting life.
  
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  Happy Father's Day!

  by Perry in

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  2. friends

  cheers to all you good fathers out there working hard for your families!.

  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xdijrpc_oho.

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  Cheers to all you good fathers out there working hard for your families!

  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xdiJrpC_oho
  
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  *Reminder* EXJW Meetup in Gruene, Texas (Near Austin, San Antonio, etc.) June 28th @ 6:30PM

  by lambsbottom in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  i hope yall dont mind me putting a reminder up.

  pm me for location.

  we have 7 rsvps so far.

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  Awwww man, that is 5 mins from my house! We are leaving for Port A on the coast on the 26th. Would love to come. Put me down for next time.
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  W 15 july - members of others religions not destroyed???

  by paradisebeauty in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  please tell me what do you understand from this quote that is taken from w july 2015, the article your deliverance is close paragraph 5.. i understand that not all members of other religions will be destroyed at armageddon.

  i talked to a jw.

  he says he understands differently: they will not be destroyed when the babylon the great will be destroyed but they will be destroyed in armageddon.

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  For clarity sake, this is a commentary about what the passages in Zechariah are actually about:

  13:1-6 In the time mentioned at the close of the foregoing chapter, a fountain would be opened to the rulers and people of the Jews, in which to wash away their sins. Even the atoning blood of Christ, united with his sanctifying grace. It has hitherto been closed to the unbelieving nation of Israel; but when the Spirit of grace shall humble and soften their hearts, he will open it to them also. This fountain opened is the pierced side of Christ. We are all as an unclean thing. Behold a fountain opened for us to wash in, and streams flowing to us from that fountain. The blood of Christ, and God's pardoning mercy in that blood, made known in the new covenant, are a fountain always flowing, that never can be emptied. It is opened for all believers, who as the spiritual seed of Christ, are of the house of David, and, as living members of the church, are inhabitants of Jerusalem. Christ, by the power of his grace, takes away the dominion of sin, even of beloved sins. Those who are washed in the fountain opened, as they are justified, so they are sanctified. Souls are brought off from the world and the flesh, those two great idols, that they may cleave to God only.

  
  

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  JWS are not afraid of the teachings of other religions.

  
  

  They have no fear of God either when he says that in hell it will simply not be possible to cease being conscious. We were created with the ability to enjoy God and his unfathomable goodness for eternity. God has put eternity in us.

  
  

  the smoke of their torment ascendeth up for ever and ever: and they have no rest day nor night - Rev. 14: 11