does this make any sense whatsoever ?
isnt jesus christ the king ?why the need for 144000 king priests to help him ?.
is he not up for the job?
The only example of an immortal human body in scripture is Jesus, after his resurrection. In that body he ate and drank, appeared in rooms without using doors & ascended into heaven in that same body.
Presumably church age believers will be able to do the same since the scripture reads that when he appears (at the rapture) we shall be "just like him".
does this make any sense whatsoever ?
isnt jesus christ the king ?why the need for 144000 king priests to help him ?.
is he not up for the job?
What are your thoughts about this question ?
There will be far more co-rulers that 144K. This refers to ONLY Israelites, the remnant God reserves for himself who do not support the anti-christ during the great tribulation.
In the Thousand-Year Reign, the Earth's population will be as numerous as the Sands of the Sea. (Billions and Billions) These people are the survivors and the offspring of the survivors of all of the anti-christs wars at the end of the great tribulation. They are not immortal (church-age saints) but have life-spans similar to those who lived before the flood. They are commonly referred to as tribulation saints.
Millions of church-age saints (believers during the times of the gentiles) will have already been raptured, their bodies resurrected and united with their souls. They will have bodies exactly like the one that Jesus had after his resurrection..... able to thrive in heaven and on earth, doubtless multi-dimensional and very powerful. (Higher than the angels)
If you figure the USA has about 22 million people in the government, it is not hard to image many millions of people working in collaboration with Jesus as the King of the Earth since there will only be ONE government during this time.
satan loves his own people and hates those who do not share his views, hence only he can use shunning as a weapon.. on the contrary, god is love (agape = unconditional love), cannot have his own people.
(mathew 5:44-48).
all the accounts not in conformity with this principle originated from cleric’s pen (jeremiah 7:31; 8:8).
God shunned Adam and Eve after they sinned. He never communicated with them ever again.
He spoke with both of them after they sinned. He took their fig leaves off and made them clothes of animal skins. This required the shedding of blood..... and a covering was provided because of it. This foreshadowed the blood covering Jesus would provide in the future.
If they put faith in God, then Adam and Eve are likely saved, since we are saved by faith and not by works. The death penalty still remained, it just gets applied to SOMEONE else if requested.
hi everyone , how ya'll doin' ?
please could someone with a copy of the nwt help me out ?
and by extension help someone else out .
In Hebrews Chapter one, (1) The angels are commanded to worship Jesus and (2) Jehovah calls the Son "God".
hi everyone , how ya'll doin' ?
please could someone with a copy of the nwt help me out ?
and by extension help someone else out .
They changed Hebrews 1: 8 too and the Psalms that it was quoting!
----------------------------KJV-------------------------- NASB--------------------NIV------------------------NWT
| Hebrews 1:5,6 (worshipping anything other than God is idolatry) | Thou art my Son… And let all the angels of God worship him. | YOU ARE MY SON… “AND LET ALL THE ANGELS OF GOD WORSHIP HIM." | "You are my Son…Let all God's angels worship him." | You are my son; …“And let all God’s angels do obeisance to him.” |
| Hebrews 1:8 (See Ps. 45:6) | But unto the Son he saith, Thy throne, O God, is for ever and ever | But of the Son He says, YOUR THRONE, O GOD, IS FOREVER | But about the Son he says, "Your throne, O God, will last for ever | But with reference to the Son: “God is your throne forever (original passage in Psalms was perverted to support this one!) |
i'm just making my way through crisis of conscience for the second time and once again i am struck by the presentation of such detailed records.
letters are shown in full - copies of letters from the branch, and to the branch.
reports are quoted vebatim.
As I understand it, Ray Franz was a primary Watchtower researcher, having written the first WTBS biblical encyclopedia - Aid to Bible Understanding.
He was probably a prolific notetaker and documentor for a number of reasons, not the least of which was his personality type.
what i sense from the conversations of my family members and relatives who are jws is that at least some jws are not as zealous before with regard to the major subjects such as “sanctification of god’s name,” “vindication of his sovereignty” etc.
they begin to feel that such subjects are imaginary issues.. this is a good sign.
it shows people are worried about their own day-to-day worries.
... some JWs are not as zealous before with regard to the major subjects such as “sanctification of God’s name,” “vindication of His sovereignty” etc. They begin to feel that such subjects are imaginary issues.
The two issues you post about above are the "fake news" that the WT trots out for public consumption. It even sounds cool because of the big religious sounding words. It's still fake news.
1. The first point is easily dispelled in the statement that "there is no other name besides Jesus in which we get saved".
2. Jesus didn't come to vindicate Jehovah's sovereignty .... whatever that means. He "came so people could have life, and have life more abundantly"
It is not surprising that members are unmotivated by such useless cliches as: sanctification of God’s name & vindication of His sovereignty.
i understand people love their family but i also don't understand why you end up caring in the end.
i'm ready to leave and i 100% don't expecting my family to have any contact with me nor do i want them to contact me.
if they are going to chose a man made religion over me, that's their choice and i will sleep easy at night.
"An unexamined life is not worth living" - Plato
End of discussion - Regardless of cost.
my wife is still nominally in, but only because it "makes me (her) happy".
there is nothing academic about her beliefs and when i try, she interprets me as negative.. but then she cusses like a sailor and watches certain movies with me.
her birthday is coming up and it's also right around valentine's day.
A happy wife is a happy life. Do it.
i've been thinking about this for a while.. did jesus diee on a cross?
does it really matter?
it doesn't change anything that i can see.. is god a trinity?
Doing the will of God implies actions.
Yes it does. The question is: what that action entails. That's a legitimate question.
Jesus was once asked what we must do, to do the will of God. The answer? Believe Jesus.
....this is the will of him that sent me, that every one which seeth the Son, and believeth on him, may have everlasting life: and I will raise him up at the last day. - John 6
This is the beginning and the end of the "works" of God. This is the bottom line of Christianity.
For by grace are ye saved through faith; and that not of yourselves: it is the gift of God:
Not of works, lest any man should boast. - Ephesians 2:8-9
Christians have but one work; belief. Of course this is offensive to our cultured advanced minds. Nevertheless, everyone gets to chose their own eternal destiny, free of any burdens of performance whatsoever.
The question then becomes what constitutes belief? It is a very personal thing. And God knows what we believe.
