Posts by Perry

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Noah's Ark and I'm a dumbass

by new22day in

walking down memory lane today and recalled a convo with my ex about noah's ark.

(i made all the rookie mistakes when talking to my ex about jw stuff -sigh.

) i think i said something like 'if you believe in noah's ark take the cat and a mouse from the backyard for a drive around the block and let me know how it goes.

We all have basically the same information available to us. Uniformitarianism, the geologic columnn, macro evolution, something from nothing and the whole naturalism paradigmn in general doesn't add up and is NOT science, since it cannot be tested by the scientific method. It is opinion.

Given man's propensity for self-deception, which can be proven scientifically, at a minimum it is certainly not something to blindly accept as truth. I believe the naturalism paradigmn to simply be a short-term psychological device that will go the way of the dinosaur shortly.

No offense to anyone personally.

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Stupidology and its findings

by Terry in

since the early 1800's in america a number of new religions have appeared.. the church of jesus christ of latter day saints (mormons), christian science, jehovah's witnesses, scientology, etc.. there are elements in common.. some individual makes unprovable claims, untestable assertions and crafts unusual doctrines which dovetail in some ways with established beliefs while.

simultaneously and radically replacing them.. mormons produce a better and purer revelation in their book of mormon.. scientologists piggy-back off of psychiatry and gnosticism while inventing a new technology which eliminates infestations by alien beings trapped inside humans.. jehovah's witnesses claim leadership by a governing body as a sole channel of communicating escape plans from the imminent war of god on humans.. and so forth.... .

practioners of these religions must sooner or later grapple with disproofs which include discoveries made public of lies, misrepresentations and duplicity.. yet, the majority of adherents selectively dismiss such revelations as a test of their own faith and an opportunity to demonstrate solidarity.. a close examination of this self-reinforced refusal to confront disputatious rebuttal of doctrine i choose to call stupidology.. .

Perry

Great article Perry, but since it is looking at the premise from an evolutionary standpoint you either - never read it,

undertsood it or in fact disagree with it.

Well, even a broken clock is right twice a day

To his credit, the evolutionist biologist author does admit the following though:

"I have certainly enjoyed only very limited success in curbing my own self-deception."

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Stupidology and its findings

by Terry in

since the early 1800's in america a number of new religions have appeared.. the church of jesus christ of latter day saints (mormons), christian science, jehovah's witnesses, scientology, etc.. there are elements in common.. some individual makes unprovable claims, untestable assertions and crafts unusual doctrines which dovetail in some ways with established beliefs while.

simultaneously and radically replacing them.. mormons produce a better and purer revelation in their book of mormon.. scientologists piggy-back off of psychiatry and gnosticism while inventing a new technology which eliminates infestations by alien beings trapped inside humans.. jehovah's witnesses claim leadership by a governing body as a sole channel of communicating escape plans from the imminent war of god on humans.. and so forth.... .

practioners of these religions must sooner or later grapple with disproofs which include discoveries made public of lies, misrepresentations and duplicity.. yet, the majority of adherents selectively dismiss such revelations as a test of their own faith and an opportunity to demonstrate solidarity.. a close examination of this self-reinforced refusal to confront disputatious rebuttal of doctrine i choose to call stupidology.. .

Perry

Terry,

Why limit man's vulnerability to deception to "people of faith"? There are plenty of examples of scientific deception to choose from as well wouldn't you agree?

Deception is part of the nature of man.

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Noah's Ark and I'm a dumbass

by new22day in

walking down memory lane today and recalled a convo with my ex about noah's ark.

(i made all the rookie mistakes when talking to my ex about jw stuff -sigh.

) i think i said something like 'if you believe in noah's ark take the cat and a mouse from the backyard for a drive around the block and let me know how it goes.

Perry

Agreed. Science has proven so many tenets of the Bible wrong

Such as?

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Question about Jesus and Armageddon

by TheStumbler in

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friends

i have a question about armageddon.. my understanding is that the watchtower teaches that only jws will survive armageddon.

following the great trubulation and time of trouble, when the world's forces turn on true religion (jws), god will step in an kill everone (apart from his true followers).. .

i've been talking to a jw recently who seems to be suggesting that the casualties will be due to human warfare in the great tribulation so will be man's fault - not jehovah's.

Perry

You tell me.

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Question about Jesus and Armageddon

by TheStumbler in

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friends

i have a question about armageddon.. my understanding is that the watchtower teaches that only jws will survive armageddon.

following the great trubulation and time of trouble, when the world's forces turn on true religion (jws), god will step in an kill everone (apart from his true followers).. .

i've been talking to a jw recently who seems to be suggesting that the casualties will be due to human warfare in the great tribulation so will be man's fault - not jehovah's.

Perry

No foaming at the mouth transhuman. Just reliable prophecy as usual from a prophet of God.

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christian conscience

by alfredjones100 in

i have a question i'd like to ask long time witnesses and hopefully get serious answers ... if there is one.. can anyone tell me any area of life that active witnesses are totally free to use their own christian conscience on a matter?.

(for example, one that has not been commented on by wt articals).

Perry

can anyone tell me any area of life that active witnesses are totally free to use their own christian conscience on a matter?

There are no articles relating to which alcoholic beverages to select from.

Apparently one is as appropriate as the other ..... in moderation of course

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Why Did You Get Baptised

by God_Delusion in

hi guys,.

so then, why did you get dunked?

were you pressured into it too, or did you do it because you honestly thought it was the right thing to do?.

Perry

I wanted to get right with God.

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How many of you followed the WTS direction on education years ago and have been screwed by it?

by Julia Orwell in

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i'm really interested in this question because i've heard for years that if you forgo further education and go pioneering, when you have a family down the track you will get a good job because jehovah will provide for you because you pioneered.

as long as i was a kool-aid drinker, even then, i thought, "how does pioneering pay your bills?

surely education should come first.

Perry

I actually left the Watchtower to get a university degree in sociology. I found some of my sociology professors to be just as narrow-minded as the elders. I was disappointed in the "education" but did benefit overall from the experience.

A bad education is still better than no edumacation.

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It's a miserable life --- Really?

by Lady Lee in

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i was at the check-out counter sitting in my wheelchair, listening to the customer behind me talk to the cashier.

he looks at her and says she looks tired.

she rings through one more of my purchases and she it has been a long day.

Perry

Nice POV. I think we were meant to be involved in the "trival" and to find great happiness there.