Posts by Perry

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Merry Christmas

by jhine in

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friends

hi, i have not been on much lately due to family circumstances , but i would like to wish everyone on jwn .

a very merry christmas .

please use this thread everyone to add your own christmas greetings .

The Feeling Good Handbook -- by David Burns

by Billy the Ex-Bethelite in

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my psychiatrist recommended this book, the feeling good handbook by david d. burns, md, to me a couple years ago.

this book has been mentioned on the forum several times before, but i thought i found some things threadworthy in it.

it's a big book of 732 pages.

Its on my shelf somewhere. Read it while I was still in. If I recall its basic premise is that feelings follow thoughts, or something like that. I now think that to be an outdated model for me. But I recall the book being somewhat helpful at the time.

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Why hasn`t / doesn`t the "TRUE GOD" clarify his " GODSHIP" between the JEWS , the CHRISTIANS and the MUSLIMS.

by smiddy in

it has been about 2000 years since jesus walked the earth and has been hailed as the son of god by christians .. the jews refuse to acknowledge jesus as the son of god.. the muslims recognise jesus as only a prophet .. their are billions of christians earth wide.

their are at least a billion muslims world wide.

i`m sorry i dont know how many jews their are world wide ( please add the 6 million who died in concentration camps ).

Perry

Ha. So who exactly are these ones who are NOT God's enemies and who God DOES have a relationship with Perry?

I don't uderstand your thought process here. The answer seems so self-evident that I don't know how to respond. Is supernatural blindness that pervasive that even words commonly used are now void of meaning? God doesn't have a relationship with his enemies and does have one with his friends.

This is no different than either yours or mine experience in this life. Why people are so obsessed with changing God (as if that were possible) into someone who doesn't judge sin is way beyond my ability to undersatnd. It is totally illogical, not to mention quite imposssible. God want's to deal with sin his way....not our way, which is very subjective. Why get bent out of shape over this? There is no upside. Why many unsaved people choose to fight this battle with God is beyond me. It doesn't make sense.

Life is sooooo much better once a person makes friends with God through the blood of Jesus. His burden is very light, and his daily blessings and intimacy are sweet as honey.....not to mention that it won't end at death .

When a person gets saved by the blood contract of Jesus, and "not of works, lest any man should boast" he is given a new spirit. The new spirit is what God deals with and communicates with. "His spirit bears witness with our spirit that we are the children of God".

We were prohibited from making friends with God as Jehovah's Witnesses through the blood. We were taught another method of "gaining God's approval" or some such nonsense. After leaving the WT, it seemed a natural thing to do. I highly reccommend it. The things that God will show you after making friends with him will blow your mind, as well as capture and wooo your heart.

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Why hasn`t / doesn`t the "TRUE GOD" clarify his " GODSHIP" between the JEWS , the CHRISTIANS and the MUSLIMS.

by smiddy in

it has been about 2000 years since jesus walked the earth and has been hailed as the son of god by christians .. the jews refuse to acknowledge jesus as the son of god.. the muslims recognise jesus as only a prophet .. their are billions of christians earth wide.

their are at least a billion muslims world wide.

i`m sorry i dont know how many jews their are world wide ( please add the 6 million who died in concentration camps ).

Perry

Steve Says:

What if" questions are unboundaried and lead to endless speculation.

What if Catholicism is the light of the world?

What if JWs are right after all?

What if Joseph Smith did receive visions from "Our Heavenly Father"?

What if "God" speaks to more than one group?

What if "God" speaks only to one group and our task is to find that group?

What if the Bible is not the Holy Book we should be reading?

Why in the world you wouldn't include God in that list is just plain NUTS!

Here's a question that seems impenetrable to the reprobate mind :What if God is right? Just what if GOD IS RIGHT?

What if there really is a judgment after you die? Just WHAT IF God is REALLLY, REALLY offended at your efforts to love like Jesus did and perfectly treat others the way you want to be treated. WHAT IF IT REALLY WAS impossible to be perfect. And What if God really wants to fellowship with You even though on your own efforts YOU cannot keep his standards? And, just what if God OFFERS TO DO IT FOR YOU through the new birth, with a NEW SPIRIT THAT CANNOT SIN?

Why be obsessed with whether one group or thing is right or wrong, when I ASK YOU DEAR MAN : What if God is right?

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Why hasn`t / doesn`t the "TRUE GOD" clarify his " GODSHIP" between the JEWS , the CHRISTIANS and the MUSLIMS.

by smiddy in

it has been about 2000 years since jesus walked the earth and has been hailed as the son of god by christians .. the jews refuse to acknowledge jesus as the son of god.. the muslims recognise jesus as only a prophet .. their are billions of christians earth wide.

their are at least a billion muslims world wide.

i`m sorry i dont know how many jews their are world wide ( please add the 6 million who died in concentration camps ).

Perry

Cantleave,

The WT created a false God whereby just by dying you could get a clean slate and all would be forgiven. You Cantleave. YOU hurl obsenities at God. And yet, if someone stole your car, I bet you'd be the first one to call the police for justice. You appear trapped in an illogical mental prison.

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Why hasn`t / doesn`t the "TRUE GOD" clarify his " GODSHIP" between the JEWS , the CHRISTIANS and the MUSLIMS.

by smiddy in

it has been about 2000 years since jesus walked the earth and has been hailed as the son of god by christians .. the jews refuse to acknowledge jesus as the son of god.. the muslims recognise jesus as only a prophet .. their are billions of christians earth wide.

their are at least a billion muslims world wide.

i`m sorry i dont know how many jews their are world wide ( please add the 6 million who died in concentration camps ).

Perry

Designs, I quoted Jesus. Why do you continue to attack Paul?

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Why hasn`t / doesn`t the "TRUE GOD" clarify his " GODSHIP" between the JEWS , the CHRISTIANS and the MUSLIMS.

by smiddy in

it has been about 2000 years since jesus walked the earth and has been hailed as the son of god by christians .. the jews refuse to acknowledge jesus as the son of god.. the muslims recognise jesus as only a prophet .. their are billions of christians earth wide.

their are at least a billion muslims world wide.

i`m sorry i dont know how many jews their are world wide ( please add the 6 million who died in concentration camps ).

Perry

Discussing the Bible and faith is one thing but declaring a condemnation on most people is something else entirely!

Pelican, God must judge someday. Failure to do so would mean that God is ultimately an enabler of sin. As God, he is good. Just as a good judge would be derelich in his duty to ignore evidence & refuse to judge a theif, God, in his "all-knowingness", must one day judge everyone who has sinned, or at least that has knowingly sinned.

To say that a good God won't judge people is a contridiction in terms. It is close to the same as saying "there is no God" but it is a little different. It is actually idolatry because the believer has created a false God in his own image - One that won't judge sin.

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Why hasn`t / doesn`t the "TRUE GOD" clarify his " GODSHIP" between the JEWS , the CHRISTIANS and the MUSLIMS.

by smiddy in

it has been about 2000 years since jesus walked the earth and has been hailed as the son of god by christians .. the jews refuse to acknowledge jesus as the son of god.. the muslims recognise jesus as only a prophet .. their are billions of christians earth wide.

their are at least a billion muslims world wide.

i`m sorry i dont know how many jews their are world wide ( please add the 6 million who died in concentration camps ).

Perry

Utter Non-Sense Designs.

You know that Jesus offered a Covenant for the FOREGIVENESS of sins:

And taking a cup, he offered thanks and gave it to them, saying: “Drink out of it, all of you, for this means my ‘blood of the covenant, which is to be poured out in behalf of many for forgiveness of sins. - Jesus (NWT Mt. 26:27)

And he told Nicodemus that he "must be born again" . Why? Because the Law Covenant was simply a tutor leading to Christ and was actually a curse because NO ONE could keep all of God's Laws through will-power alone. It was simply impossible.

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Why hasn`t / doesn`t the "TRUE GOD" clarify his " GODSHIP" between the JEWS , the CHRISTIANS and the MUSLIMS.

by smiddy in

it has been about 2000 years since jesus walked the earth and has been hailed as the son of god by christians .. the jews refuse to acknowledge jesus as the son of god.. the muslims recognise jesus as only a prophet .. their are billions of christians earth wide.

their are at least a billion muslims world wide.

i`m sorry i dont know how many jews their are world wide ( please add the 6 million who died in concentration camps ).

Perry

Yet in 2000 years since Christ walked the earth what have we heard from God to sort out this .....silence ....?

Just because You haven't heard from God doesn't mean others haven't. Biblical Christianity states that we are all God's enemies. In short we're unholy and he is Holy. There is NO relationship there. Biblical Christianity also states that your good works are useless in trying to bridge this gap. All religions and apostate Christianity all teach that your good works are a method of getting right with God. NO ONE will hear from God using this method, that's for sure.

In addition to not having the ability to make friends with God on our own efforts, we are still liable on Judgment Day for the wrong things that we have committed and that have come out of our mouth. Failing to listen to God's message of redemption through the blood of his Son, most people will only hear God speak on Judgment Day. This will not be a friendly conversation.

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Bible Translation Shenanigans

by Perry in

by jack l. green.

the bible clearly and unmistakably teaches that the lord jesus christ is jehovah god.

the cult known as "jehovah witnesses" deny that jesus is jehovah, thus revealing that they are anti-christ.. not only have the "jehovah witnesses" tampered with the context of hundreds of scriptures, but now they have brazenly moved into the bible translation field.. their reason for doing this?

Perry

by Jack L. Green

The Bible clearly and unmistakably teaches that the Lord Jesus Christ is Jehovah God. The cult known as "Jehovah witnesses" deny that Jesus is Jehovah, thus revealing that they are Anti-Christ.

Not only have the "Jehovah Witnesses" tampered with the context of hundreds of Scriptures, but now they have brazenly moved into the Bible translation field.

Their reason for doing this? Why the King James Version is biased, they say. The Greek Scriptures of the New World Translation appeared first. Let us examine their rules, which were to over-come the bias of the King James Version. Claiming to translate literally, they became enmeshed in their own rules. One of the rules they set for themselves in the foreword is: wherever the Greek words "Kurios" and "theos" appear, they will uniformly translate these as "JEHOVAH." That is their rule! Upon coming to Phil. 2:9-11 they fail to translate "kurios" as Jehovah.

Why? It would read "and every tongue shall openly confess that Jesus is Jehovah to the glory of the Father." Coming across I Cor. 12:3 where "Christos Kurion" appears they allow "Lord" to remain. Why?

Because it would have read "and that no man can say Jesus is Jehovah, but by the Holy Ghost." You note, in both cases they broke their own rules, in order to maintain their bias against the deity of Christ.

Can you trust a translation like that? Who are the translators? The convention report of 1953 glibly says "it was authorized by the Creator." In 237 places they translate "Kurios" and "Theos" as "Jehovah", why not in 37 places where they failed to do so, leaving Lord stand? Read John 8:24 and Romans 10:9,10,13, Hebrews 1:8.

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I thought the above short essay was worth posting here. In the same area of interest, I came across a NT scripture that needed to be changed in the New World Translation in order to support Watchtower doctrine. The one thing that is unique about the bastardization of this scripture is that it is actually a quote from an Old Testament scripture. I wondered how ole Freddy Franz dealt with that one. And, sure enough, he covered his tracks by changing the OT scripture as well. Shocking.

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Hebrews 1:8

(See Ps. 45:6)

But unto the Son he saith, Thy throne, O God, is for ever and ever

But of the Son He says, YOUR THRONE, O GOD, IS FOREVER

But about the Son he says, "Your throne, O God, will last for ever

But with reference to the Son: “God is your throne forever

Psalms 45: 6

Thy throne, O God, is forever and ever:

Your throne, O God, is forever and ever

Your throne, O God, will last for ever and ever;

God is your throne forever and ever