Thanks Searcher. 1982 was the most recent example you posted. I wonder if they've beat that drum since then?
The context makes it hard to believe that anyone woud except that teaching.
for the one who has died has been acquitted from his sin.
- romans 6:7 (nwt).
i got a chance to witness to my dad scripture for scripture for one whole hour over the holidays.
Thanks Searcher. 1982 was the most recent example you posted. I wonder if they've beat that drum since then?
The context makes it hard to believe that anyone woud except that teaching.
ok so you had a bad experience and you stopped going to church which ever one that is.
but did you stop believing or are you that peeved you blame god etc.
i would encourage you to humble yourself before your messiah and seek him, he will let himself be found by you and come dwells within you.
I sought God through the methods of the Watchtower strenously for 8 years. It didn't work. I didn't get mastery over the things that the first century Christians did. I didn't experience a "new life in Christ". It was all about will-power and I was exhausted. It was very easy to become agnostic afterwards. I guess it was hard for me to swallow that all my efforts at pleasing God were rejected by him.
It was not a natural next step for me to put my trust in Christ Alone. Yet, I eventually did it anyway basically because nothing else was working. If a person seeks him (Jesus); he will be found to be very much alive.
there's quite a lot on tv just now about jesus.
i'm not sure anymore....was he the son of god, or just generally a good person?.
i'm not atheist or agnostic but i just want something real and true..
If you makes friends with God, through the blood covenant (and no other way) he will find YOU. You can count on it!
for the one who has died has been acquitted from his sin.
- romans 6:7 (nwt).
i got a chance to witness to my dad scripture for scripture for one whole hour over the holidays.
For the one who has died has been acquitted from his sin. - Romans 6:7 (NWT)
I got a chance to witness to my dad scripture for scripture for one whole hour over the holidays. He was hung up on the above scripture. Of course the verse right before it shows it is a spiritual death:
For we know that our old personality was nailed to the stake along with him in order for our sinful body to be made powerless, so that we should no longer go on being slaves to sin. - Romans 6:6 (NWT)
Numerous other scriptures in Romans 6 & 7 and elsewhere show that the death here is a spiritual requirement and not a iteral one. ie. dying to oneself.
Even though this scripture is often repeated among JW's verbally to support the heretical position of receiving a "clean slate" when a person dies, I don't recall it being an official WT doctrine.
Has anyone seen this false doctrine in print anywhere by the WT ?
this is an interesting article from scientific american about a study on how prayer helps increase one's self-control through social connection.
this adds to previous research on the subject.
it's a short article and a worth read.. .
It's a shame they didn't find "THE" source. It is available to "whosoever".
i know this is one huge rant, but i want to put my own questions and doubts in writing.. i am a fading jw who has become agnostic... i still believe in "god" and "jesus," but i simply cannot explain to people why i believe in them.
i just do.. about the existence of god: it is an infinite regress.
"all things were created by someone"... well... who created god?
Has actual evolution, i.e. the changes accumulating sufficiently to make ANOTHER species, been observed? If so, where? I would think that the smaller the species/the faster time to reproduce, the better chances to actually observe this.
I'd like to 2nd that question.
so i grew up in new jersey in a very urban part of the state.
i literally only saw white folks if they were in a police car or if i went to the assembly.
the funny thing is at the assembly there was still a level of segregation as well although it was self-imposed.
Every situation is different for sure. I wasn't there. But I have seen the devastating ill efffects of being too sensitive. When people "dish it out" they expect to get it back in return. It's just a game most of the time. If you get all huffy.... it makes you appear like a spoiled brat without a sense of humor. Of course there are limits.
One friend's son I know was a young skinny white man. He was working side by side with a seasoned older Mexican man who was constantly asking him when he was going to start working....... no matter how hard the kid worked. It wasn't personal. But, the skinny white dude felt that he was being disrespected for being a skinny white dude & not as strong and as used to manual labor as the other guy. He quit his job over it. No sense of humor.
A few days later I had this same young man up on a roof unloading some materials and we both overheard the materials company labor giving another skinny white kid a hard time. They kept asking him when he was going to start working. Instead of taking it personal, he dished it right back. Later, I asked the mouthy Mexican guy about the skinny white kid and he assured me he was just joking. He said that the "kid" was the best manager they ever had and that he was very highly educated and was making the company a lot of money.... which increased job security for everyone. The mouthing was just a game to pass the time, no big deal. It was his boss!
Later, I looked at my friends' son and told him I thought he quit his job over nothing.... just being too sensitive and not having a sense of humor. He agreed after he saw nearly the exact same thing, but handled differently.
so i grew up in new jersey in a very urban part of the state.
i literally only saw white folks if they were in a police car or if i went to the assembly.
the funny thing is at the assembly there was still a level of segregation as well although it was self-imposed.
Don't be so sensitive. When I attended a mostly black congregation, I got to hear stuff like "whitey" get thrown around.... and cliches like "white don't make you right". It was in good fun among the younger ones, almost like they wanted to cut me in on some joking that they enjoyed amongst themselves on a limited basis. I wasn't offended, it made me feel rather excepted. At least that was the way it seemed to be presented.
At the time, I had never heard some of those terms and phrases; and in truth they were rather comical. Young people are pretty silly by nature.
Just some food for thought.
so bring it on, and lay the evidence on me, kate (but perhaps you should start a new thread).-adam.
it does not prove god exists, there is no substantial evidence god is real.
if one is a self labeled atheist, one has no desire to see gods fingerprints in organic chemistry.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/will_to_power.
he will to power (german: der wille zur macht) is a prominent concept in the philosophy of friedrich nietzsche.
the will to power describes what nietzsche may have believed to be the main driving force in humans: achievement, ambition, the striving to reach the highest possible position in life; these are all manifestations of the will to power.. alfred adler incorporated the will to power into his individual psychology.
Sometimes if you stare too long into the Abyss, the Abyss stares back at You.