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  Convention

  by Gorbatchov in

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  gorby is as you know a long time fader.. visited the convention this weekend.. and concluded that samuel herds talk about hope was not so bad at all, it was well balanced.

  made some good points.. knowing both sides of the medallion, have to admit he was humble with a focus on hope.. the saturday drama impressed me.

  of course, there is a lot to say about the organization, this professional produced movie in a "true story" scenario, gave me the insight that hope is important for suffering people.

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  Sounds like he was saying out of the side of his mouth that false hope is still better than no hope at all.
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  Exit therapist

  by Beachlover in

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  i am having quite a bit of trouble leaving and fading.

  does anyone have recommendations of an exit therapist?

  it doesn't matter where they are located, i need to get out physically, mentally, and emotionally.

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  Perry

  When a person leaves the Watchtower, he is viewed as an enemy by current members. It is very tempting to repay evil for evil. I believe that Jesus teachings on love, forgiveness, boundaries etc., are all powerful weapons against tyranny. And that is what the Watchtower system is more than anything else - tyrannical thought police.

  Jesus taught us to look beyond the crime - "forgive them, they know not what they do."

  I believe that Jesus' teachings are powerful mechanisms for not only coping with tragedy like the kind the WT generates, but also in overcoming them and putting them under our feet where they belong and not over our heads as burdens.
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  Exit therapist

  by Beachlover in

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  i am having quite a bit of trouble leaving and fading.

  does anyone have recommendations of an exit therapist?

  it doesn't matter where they are located, i need to get out physically, mentally, and emotionally.

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  Simon,

  Jesus healed many people during his 3 year ministry. His amazing healing powers were recognized by 1) secular historians,2) the Jewish religious leadership that hated him (his enemies) and 3) those that trusted him too. No one denied that his miracles were real. He is STILL in the healing and comforting business.
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  Will Jehovah...

  by watson in

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  when jehovah brings armageddon, will he let me live long enough to witness the deaths of my children and grand children because they didn't believe in him?

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  since i've faded and i don't promote worshiping him anymore, i am just wondering.. at least i'd know for sure what kind of god he is?.

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  Heaven,

  Thank you for reminding us of that prophecy!

  Here is another:

  Isaiah 13:16 Their children also shall be dashed to pieces before their eyes; …

  When Israel turned towards the heathen for enlightenment and started worshipping idols and sacrificing their children in the fires of Molech while the drums drowned out the babies' screams, God eventually granted their desire to be free of him. He removed the protective hedge from them.

  Today, modern man kills the babies while still in the womb or only partially birthed...no drums needed. But, God hears their silent screams from their souls.

  He satisfies the desire of every living thing.

  That is a sobering thought, because it slices both ways. Eventually, when the church age has ended, God will give the majority of mankind freedom from himself. This will leave a power vacuum unlike anything seen before since time began. It is in this context that globalism will reach its full climax and the Anti-Christ will create a hellish existence for people on earth.

  The technology is already here to achieve it all.
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  Keep the meeting going! (even if somebody's dying)

  by TimeBandit in

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  this is a true story.

  it's about a sister named henriette venema.

  she was a very loyal jw.

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  That is an incredible story. The dislike for this woman by that Watchtower conductor could not have been clearer. Imagine if this would have happened to his son, daughter or mother. I doubt he would have tried to continue the study while they were dying.

  By this shall all men know that you are my disciples, if you have love one to another.
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  Brooklyn Eagle article about JWs moving out Brooklyn Heights in September

  by AndersonsInfo in

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  http://www.brooklyneagle.com/articles/2016/8/5/jehovahs-witnesses-will-start-moving-out-brooklyn-heights-headquarters-september.

  the jehovah's witnesses will start moving out of brooklyn heights headquarters in september.

  farewell to the jehovah's witnesses, who are moving out of their world headquarters at 25-30 columbia heights.

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  An era has ended, that's for sure.
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  Will Jehovah...

  by watson in

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  when jehovah brings armageddon, will he let me live long enough to witness the deaths of my children and grand children because they didn't believe in him?

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  since i've faded and i don't promote worshiping him anymore, i am just wondering.. at least i'd know for sure what kind of god he is?.

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  The WT made a good atheist out of me.

  Boy, ain't that the truth! The Watchtower is one of the greatest generators of atheism ever invented. After giving it my best shot for 8 years, regular pioneering etc; I had enough and was very nearly an atheist myself at one time.

  The watchtower has its interpretation of Revelation so convoluted, they envision God running around like a homicidal maniac killing everyone who doesn't go door to door placing WT literature.

  In reality, Revelation predicts a coming one world government headed by the Anti Christ. It is the Anti-Christ who is responsible for the killing of 2/3 of the worlds population before the battle of Armageddon even begins, not God.

  And, it is not much of a battle. With only one spoken word, King Jesus slays the army of 200 million who intend to conquer Israel one-last-time.
  

  Armageddon is strictly a military action to save Israel.
  
  
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  Creed - A Satirical Poem

  by Perry in

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  “creed” on the world.

  by steve turner.

  we believe in marxfreudanddarwin.

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  Perry

  
  

  
  

  “Creed” on the World

  By Steve Turner

  
  

  We believe in Marxfreudanddarwin

  We believe everything is OK

  as long as you don’t hurt anyone

  to the best of your definition of hurt,

  and to the best of your knowledge.

  We believe in sex before, during, and

  after marriage.

  We believe in the therapy of sin.

  We believe that adultery is fun.

  We believe that sodomy’s OK.

  We believe that taboos are taboo.

  We believe that everything’s getting better

  despite evidence to the contrary.

  The evidence must be investigated

  And you can prove anything with evidence.

  We believe there’s something in horoscopes

  UFO’s and bent spoons.

  Jesus was a good man just like Buddha,

  Mohammed, and ourselves.

  He was a good moral teacher though we think

  His good morals were bad.

  We believe that all religions are basically the same-

  at least the one that we read was.

  They all believe in love and goodness.

  They only differ on matters of creation,

  sin, heaven, hell, God, and salvation.

  We believe that after death comes the Nothing

  Because when you ask the dead what happens

  they say nothing.

  If death is not the end, if the dead have lied, then its

  compulsory heaven for all

  excepting perhaps

  Hitler, Stalin, and Genghis Kahn

  We believe in Masters and Johnson

  What’s selected is average.

  What’s average is normal.

  What’s normal is good.

  We believe in total disarmament.

  We believe there are direct links between warfare and

  bloodshed.

  Americans should beat their guns into tractors .

  And the Russians would be sure to follow.

  We believe that man is essentially good.

  It’s only his behavior that lets him down.

  This is the fault of society.

  Society is the fault of conditions.

  Conditions are the fault of society.

  We believe that each man must find the truth that

  is right for him.

  Reality will adapt accordingly.

  The universe will readjust.

  History will alter.

  We believe that there is no absolute truth

  excepting the truth

  that there is no absolute truth.

  We believe in the rejection of creeds,

  And the flowering of individual thought.

  If chance be

  the Father of all flesh,

  disaster is his rainbow in the sky

  and when you hear

  State of Emergency!

  Sniper Kills Ten!

  Troops on Rampage!

  Youths go Looting!

  Bomb Blasts School!

  It is but the sound of man

  worshipping his maker.
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  "Belief" and "Faith" are Simply Emotional Terms for Ideas and Opinions (long post)

  by xjwsrock in

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  this is my current bottom-line conclusion after starting to see through the jw game 3 to 4 years ago and going through my own process of waking up.

  it helps to write it down and put it "out there".

  i hope it helps or resonates with you in your own personal process.. basically if i were given 10 seconds to say something to an active jehovah's witness that i cared about it would be the headline above.

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  Perry

  I ran across an interesting quote recently from the one-time editor of Punch magazine that reminded me of this thread:

  “So the final conclusion would surely be that whereas other civilizations have been brought down by attacks of barbarians from without, ours had the unique distinction of training its own destroyers at its own educational institutions, and then providing them with facilities for propagating their destructive ideology far and wide, all at the public expense.

  Thus did Western Man decide to abolish himself, creating his own boredom out of his own affluence, his own vulnerability out of his own strength, his own impotence out of his own erotomania, himself blowing the trumpet that brought the walls of his own city tumbling down, and having convinced himself that he was too numerous, labored with pill and scalpel and syringe to make himself fewer.

  Until at last, having educated himself into imbecility, and polluted and drugged himself into stupefaction, he keeled over--a weary, battered old brontosaurus--and became extinct.” ― Malcolm Muggeridge
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  "Belief" and "Faith" are Simply Emotional Terms for Ideas and Opinions (long post)

  by xjwsrock in

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  this is my current bottom-line conclusion after starting to see through the jw game 3 to 4 years ago and going through my own process of waking up.

  it helps to write it down and put it "out there".

  i hope it helps or resonates with you in your own personal process.. basically if i were given 10 seconds to say something to an active jehovah's witness that i cared about it would be the headline above.

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  Perry

  If you are a believer, please read your bible entirely, slowly and consciously. I bet you will realize that not one character in the bible ever expressed blind faith without the burden of proof.

  
  

  And if you are a believer in life creating itself, please read the evidence slowly. There is not one example of life coming from non-life.

  
  

  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jo3vRqrW8NU
  

  
  

  What a fucking retard!

  
  

  Cofty,

  
  

  You are one of the most tortured people I have ever met. I hope you find peace.