assume for a minute that god created everything.
there was nothing before him and everything is because of him.
every single thing in the universe he is directly responsible for.. somehow the good stuff we should thank him for but the bad stuff is nothing to do with him, it is our fault.. this world that he created that was “good” has turned in to a right shitshow but despite being absolutely responsible for it from start to finish it is not his fault and in fact he has somehow turned this round so that instead of being to blame he is the person who is going to sort the problems and we should be thankful..
"Somehow the good stuff we should thank him for but the bad stuff is nothing to do with him, it is our fault."
the bad stuff is the devil's fault. the devil was created a beautiful angel, but once he saw adam and eve, he decided he wanted them to worship HIM.
my brother (who is a witness) has been married for 8 years.
he and his wife (also a witness) got married young, but he never really tried in the marriage, but she also lost his trust early on.
he says that it was his fault though because he pushed her away.. anyways, he met this new girl (not a witness) and told his wife that he wanted to separate.
""He told me that he purposely committed adultery with the girl hoping that his wife would want to leave him, but she did not." - what a ridiculous thing to do!!! why not leave his wife, then do what he pleases with the girl? disfellowshipping is the conclusion to that too."
actually, no. if he had simply left his wife and never fornicated, and divorced her on incompatability grounds, he would not get disfellowshipped. if he and the girl abstain from sex until they are married, then all is well too.
my brother (who is a witness) has been married for 8 years.
he and his wife (also a witness) got married young, but he never really tried in the marriage, but she also lost his trust early on.
he says that it was his fault though because he pushed her away.. anyways, he met this new girl (not a witness) and told his wife that he wanted to separate.
fornication has taken place, so is grounds for divorce. after finalised he is free to marry the girl, keeps attending meetings, gets reinstated. the girl studies and gets baptised when she is ready to and the congregation give her permission after going through the questions.
"Would it be considered a deceitful divorce because my brother is leaving his wife with the motive of marrying this girl?" - your brother was deceitful committing adultery with the poor girl.
"Although the wife would prefer not to lose her husband, she told me that once the divorce is final, she would not care if he remarried and wouldn't be mad. She would actually be as supportive as she could given the circumstances (but she would move on from him). The only person she does not want him to marry is the girl he committed adultery with. " - it is none of an ex's business who their ex marries next.
" He told me that he purposely committed adultery with the girl hoping that his wife would want to leave him, but she did not." - what a ridiculous thing to do!!! why not leave his wife, then do what he pleases with the girl? disfellowshipping is the conclusion to that too.
Sounds like he is more interested in continuing to live in the marital home, but without the wife, than being up front about anything.
i’ve been gone a long time.
after my mother passed away a few years ago, i pretty much lost most contact with the witnesses.
a couple that were family friends for many years stopped checking on me to say hello.
so my brother recently became df.
he has full intentions of being reinstated, but it is going to take at least a year.
if the end times occurs while he is df, will he still be allowed in the kingdom of god?.
you worry too much. everyone can pray to Jehovah God, through Jesus Christ, regardless of whether they are disfellowshipped or not.
Jehovah God reads hearts and notices if we are working in line with our prayers.
the congregation will get the benefit of associating with your brother again, when he is reinstated. until then, i suggest he associates with Jehovah and stays close to him ❤️
my fathers best friend passed away a couple of days ago.
admittedly, i live in a country that is covid free, although the local dubbies are still following the advice of not meeting in the hall.
with the death of my fathers friend, the local boe must have had a change of heart.
dubbies?
i stumbled on john 17:1,2 which reads in net version:.
17 when jesus had finished saying these things, he looked upward to heaven and said, “father, the time has come.
glorify your son, so that your son may glorify you— 2 just as you have given him authority over all humanity, so that he may give eternal life to everyone you have given him.. if jesus had a close relation with his father, would you not expect to read something like this:.
i suppose that is how people spoke in those days. I can imagine many children might ask their parents for things in the third person....... "Father, are you not going to buy that watch? You did promise your only daughter!"
