@ DJW - "Energy-matter never came into existence, but rather has always existed."
Looks like atheists and believers do agree on something!! Just different faiths!
the common thread of beleivers / creationists of a god creating life is design .. and if something / anything is designed it must have a designer ?.
however this reasoning is discarded when talking about the existence of god.. and if such a being as god somehow existed without a designer why not all forms of life itself as existing on earth ?.
coming into existence without a designer ?.
@ DJW - "Energy-matter never came into existence, but rather has always existed."
Looks like atheists and believers do agree on something!! Just different faiths!
the common thread of beleivers / creationists of a god creating life is design .. and if something / anything is designed it must have a designer ?.
however this reasoning is discarded when talking about the existence of god.. and if such a being as god somehow existed without a designer why not all forms of life itself as existing on earth ?.
coming into existence without a designer ?.
Those on both sides of the debate rely on faith where there are unanswered/unanswerable questions.
The $64,000 question for atheists: how could anything physical ever come into existence on its own?
The $64,000 question for believers: how could something spiritual ever come into existence on its own?
Yup, faith.
jehovah`s witnesses , seventh day adventists , church of jesus christ of the latter day saints.. these 3 are probably the more influenthal in the last 200 or so years ago.. if membership is a sign of god`s blessing on who he favours then @ the year 2021.. jehovah`s witnesses membership 8.5 million.
church of jesus christ of latter day saint`s membership.16.8 million.
seventh day adventist`s membership.21 million.
Who is God favouring? According to the Bible, Christians. But according to the scriptures, His people (Christians) are implicated/involved with an authority/system which they should not be, and they are warned to disassociate themselves from it: Rev. 17:1-5; 18:4
Just one description/definition of Christendom: "The union between Christianity and secular power." (Diarmaid Ninian John MacCulloch, Professor of the History of the Church at the University of Oxford - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Christendom)
it-1 p. 524 covenant - the purpose of the new covenant requires that it continue in operation until all of the “israel of god” are resurrected to immortality in the heavens.. it-1 p. 525 covenant - the covenant remains operative between jesus christ and these associate kings forever.. w80 7/1 p. 31 - likewise, the new covenant will come to its end when all the anointed ones are resurrected to heavenly immortal life.. w79 4/1 p. 31 - the new covenant will terminate with the glorification of the remnant who are today in that covenant mediated by christ..
it-1 p. 524 Covenant - The purpose of the new covenant requires that it continue in operation until all of the “Israel of God” are resurrected to immortality in the heavens.
it-1 p. 525 Covenant - The covenant remains operative between Jesus Christ and these associate kings forever.
w80 7/1 p. 31 - Likewise, the new covenant will come to its end when all the anointed ones are resurrected to heavenly immortal life.
w79 4/1 p. 31 - The new covenant will terminate with the glorification of the remnant who are today in that covenant mediated by Christ.
.....ukraine!!!
(according to osce submission in 2019) https://www.osce.org/odihr/431066.
if it was homosexuals or transsexuals being targeted, would nations & the democracies of the world be supporting the ukrainian government?.
@ Marcial - What is the relationship between tjs and homosexual or transgender people, LGBT?
No difference whatsoever - when it concerns human rights and protection from evil.
the cult's dogma claims the exodus foreigners were not participants of the law covenant and use it is an antitype to prove the “other sheep” are not participants of the new covenant - wt 98 2/1 p.19, par.
6. their demonic dogma is then enforced annually via the org's anti-christ ritual - the memorial of christ's death - to compel jw's to reject christ and the new covenant.. deuteronomy 29:10-15 screams “liars” & "offspring of vipers" at the watchtower hierarchy!.
are jw's too blinded to read and understand the bible for themselves????????????.
The cult's dogma claims the exodus foreigners were not participants of the Law Covenant and use it is an antitype to prove the “other sheep” are not participants of the New Covenant - wt 98 2/1 p.19, par. 6
Their demonic dogma is then enforced annually via the org's anti-Christ ritual - the memorial of Christ's death - to compel JW's to reject Christ and the New Covenant.
Deuteronomy 29:10-15 screams “liars” & "offspring of vipers" at the Watchtower hierarchy!
Are JW's too blinded to read and understand the Bible for themselves????????????
i've added to it in bold letters:.
january 2023 study watchtower, page 20, pars.
1 - 3.. almost 2,000 years ago, jesus gave his life in our behalf, opening the way for us to gain everlasting life.
I've added to it in bold letters:
January 2023 Study Watchtower, page 20, pars. 1 - 3.
ALMOST 2,000 years ago,
Jesus gave his life in our behalf, opening the way for us to gain
everlasting life. On the night before he died, Jesus commanded
his
[anointed]
followers
to remember his loving act by means of a simple ceremony
involving bread and wine. - 1 Cor. 11:23-26.
2 We [the
anointed] obey Jesus’ command because we love him very
much. Each year during the Memorial season, we.....also gladly
increase our share in the ministry, encouraging as many
[non-participants] as possible to join us [as spectators]
for this special occasion.
3 In this article, we will consider three ways in which Jehovah’s people have made significant efforts to commemorate Jesus’ death: (1) by reestablishing the pattern?? that Jesus set, (2) by inviting others to the Memorial, [did Jesus set a pattern to invite spectators?] and (3) by observing [observing, as in “seeing” and not as in “obeying”] the Memorial despite difficult circumstances.
.....ukraine!!!
(according to osce submission in 2019) https://www.osce.org/odihr/431066.
if it was homosexuals or transsexuals being targeted, would nations & the democracies of the world be supporting the ukrainian government?.
.....UKRAINE!!! (according to OSCE submission in 2019) https://www.osce.org/odihr/431066
If it was homosexuals or transsexuals being targeted, would nations & the democracies of the world be supporting the Ukrainian government?
what new light from jehovah did you find hard to swallow?.
the conversations in the attached video are enlightening.
the graphic is hilarious.. https://youtu.be/byj3zrpbuvg.
(1 Peter 3:15) "...always ready to make a defense before everyone who demands of you a reason for the hope you have,"...............but if you get put in a corner, tell them to go to JW.BORG.
hello jwners,.
the jw i chatted with recently directed me to matthew 24 with regards to the witnesses and highlighted matthew 24:14. i asked him what "this gospel" is.
the only answer i got was "i'm not sure what you mean".. .
@ DJW & Phizzy - it's pretty clear that Paul did not think/believe/teach that Jesus was God, or God's equal:
“...and when all things are thus subject to him, [God Almighty] then the Son himself will also be made subordinate to God who made all things subject to him, [Jesus] and thus God will be all in all. (1 Corithians 15:28 - NEB)
How could God Almighty subject/subordinate himself to himself?