in every scripture where god & jesus appear, the holy spirit is always awol/mia.. probably explains the existence of binitarians..
@ Hooberus - Didn't Isaiah have a vision, or do you really believe that he did see God Almighty wearing clothes in heaven?
If so, your assertion makes Exodus 33:20 & John 1:18 completely false.
Either humans can see God Almighty physically, or they can't. Which one do you believe is true?
in every scripture where god & jesus appear, the holy spirit is always awol/mia.. probably explains the existence of binitarians..
@ Sea Breeze; 1 Tim. 3:16 says, "Great indeed, we confess, is the mystery of our religion: He was manifested in the flesh, vindicated in the Spirit, seen by angels, preached among the nations, believed on in the world, taken up in glory." (RSV)
When claiming that "he" is referring to God, (aka Jesus in the trinity) a very serious slander is cast at God Almighty, namely that He lied - to Moses. (Ex. 33:20) John 1:18 must be a blatant lie also.
Why didn't God simply materialise in the body of Jesus and appear to Moses?
He did it 1500 years later for the Satanic Pharisees - but not for a faithful servant?????
Not an insignificant contradiction.
in every scripture where god & jesus appear, the holy spirit is always awol/mia.. probably explains the existence of binitarians..
@ Sea Breeze - The origins of 1 John 5:7 are widely known. The source material of the King James Version, the Textus Receptus, adds a reference to "the Father, the Word and the Holy Ghost." This phrase is not found in any of the earliest manuscripts, and wasn't even in the earliest produced copies of the Textus Receptus.
As for Matthew 28:19, either the verse was 'doctored' or Luke, Peter, & Paul were seriously deficient in their writing/ baptism teaching.
(Acts 2:38) Peter said to them: “Repent, and let each one of you be baptized in the name of Jesus Christ for forgiveness of your sins.
(Acts 8:16) For it [the holy spirit] had not yet come upon any one of them, but they had only been baptized in the name of the Lord Jesus.
(Acts 10:48) With that he commanded them to be baptized in the name of Jesus Christ.
(Acts 19:5) On hearing this, they got baptized in the name of the Lord Jesus.
(Acts 22:16) Rise, get baptized, and wash your sins away by your calling on his [Jesus'] name.’
(Romans 6:3) Or do you not know that all of us who were baptized into Christ Jesus.
(1 Corinthians 1:12, 13) "What I mean is this, that each one of you says: “I belong to Paul,” “But I to A·polʹlos,” “But I to Ceʹphas,” “But I to Christ.” Is the Christ divided? Paul was not executed on the stake for you, was he? Or were you baptized in the name of Paul?"
(Galatians 3:27) For all of you who were baptized into Christ have put on Christ.
Eusebius
Pamphili, or Eusebius of Caesarea was born about 270 A.D. and
died about 340 A.D. and made eighteen
citations of Matthew 28:19, - always in the following form: "Go
ye and make disciples of all the nations in my name,
teaching them to
observe all things, whatsoever I commanded you." Only after the Council
of Nicea in 325 C.E. did he start to use the 'triune' wording.
WikiPedia: “There are a number of nontrinitarian scholars who claim that the development of baptism "in the name of the Father, and of the Son, and of the Holy Ghost" is a post-Apostolic Age interpolation and corruption and that the "Trinitarian" clause in Matthew 28:19 - “...baptizing them in the name of the Father and of the Son and of the holy spirit,” was added in the 2nd/3rd century. They cite as evidence that no record exists in the New Testament of someone being baptised with the Trinitarian formula, using literal interpretation.” https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Baptism_in_the_name_of_Jesus
If you can provide any scripture which mentions all 3 - outwith the two discussed - I'd like to read them.
in every scripture where god & jesus appear, the holy spirit is always awol/mia.. probably explains the existence of binitarians..
In every scripture where God & Jesus appear, the Holy Spirit is always AWOL/MIA.
Probably explains the existence of Binitarians.
july 15 simplified study watchtower par 8, p. 24 - “we need to obey the faithful and discreet slave to have jehovah’s approval.”.
(john 14:6) jesus said to him: “i am the way and the truth and the life.
no one comes to the father except through me, or the wtbts inc.".
OOPS - the self-appointed 'fartful slave' clearly rejected their predecessors' wisdom & truth;
w78 6/1 p. 26 - "Hence, an approved standing before God....can only be gained in the manner that Jehovah God has purposed, namely, through faith in Jesus Christ..."
july 15 simplified study watchtower par 8, p. 24 - “we need to obey the faithful and discreet slave to have jehovah’s approval.”.
(john 14:6) jesus said to him: “i am the way and the truth and the life.
no one comes to the father except through me, or the wtbts inc.".
July 15 Simplified Study Watchtower par 8, p. 24 - “We need to obey the faithful and discreet slave to have Jehovah’s approval.”
(John 14:6) Jesus said to him: “I am the way and the truth and the life. No one comes to the Father except through me, or the WTBTS Inc."
(Acts 4:12) "Furthermore, there is no salvation in anyone else, for there is no other name under heaven that has been given among men – except the WTBTS Inc. - by which we must get saved.”
(1 Timothy 2:5) "For there are two mediators between God and men, a man, Christ Jesus, and the WTBTS Inc."
“a spokesperson from dorset coroner's office told the bbc that due to the nature of his death there would be no inquest.
no further details were given on cause of death by the coroner.” https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/entertainment-arts-65633872.
no "further" details were given?
“A spokesperson from Dorset Coroner's Office told the BBC that due to the nature of his death there would be no inquest. No further details were given on cause of death by the coroner.” https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/entertainment-arts-65633872
No "further" details were given?
ZERO details were given! Wonder why.
has anybody any information as to the whereabouts or the health of anthony morris ?.
He's now living in a large house in the Australian outback with Lord Lucan & Jeffrey Epstein.
'the spokesperson also said that church elders are told to report any allegations of child sexual abuse to the authorities immediately, even if there is only one complainant.'.
https://www.lbc.co.uk/news/rebekah-vardy-sexually-abused-child-jehovahs-witnesses/.
is this true?
NOPE!! TOTALLY FAKE!!
I 'phoned Britain Branch today and the obfuscation started from the word 'go.'
The "brother" said (after seeking advice for nearly 10 minutes!!!) that he couldn't "verify" who had given the quote to the BBC. I didn't ask him who gave the quote, I asked him if it was true.
He told me to type in "child protection" on the Borg's web site, and said I would find all the information on what the org had to say about the subject.
When I read out this sentence to him, "When elders learn of an accusation of child abuse, they immediately consult with the
branch office of Jehovah’s Witnesses to ensure compliance with child abuse reporting laws," and I said that there was no mention of elders reporting to the police, he just repeated that he couldn't "verify" the source of the quote. In other words he was saying, "I know the org is employing spiritual warfare lying to the BBC.
.....wouldn't get the org to tell jw's to desist from preaching:.
"threat of mob violence perehinske.
on 26 march 2019, roman balahura, a local priest, assembled a mob and threatened 10 witnesses with violence, forcing them to stop their religious activity and to leave the village.
.....wouldn't get the Org to tell JW's to desist from preaching:
"THREAT OF MOB VIOLENCE Perehinske. On 26 March 2019, Roman Balahura, a local priest, assembled a mob and threatened 10 Witnesses with violence, forcing them to stop their religious activity and to leave the village. Although the police were called to the scene, investigations did not begin until three weeks later. The perpetrator has not been charged. In the past the same priest has assaulted Jehovah’s Witnesses, but he has never been charged or punished." (JW- submitted OSCE document)
But a few months later, the health authorities in that country had the G.B. bending over backwards to stop JW's preaching and to stop meeting together - because of a flu-type virus!
So much for Hebrews 10:25 - ". . .not forsaking our meeting together,....but encouraging one another, and all the more so as you see the day drawing near," and Acts 5:29 “We must obey God as ruler rather than men."
