Posts by BoogerMan

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Why do JW apostates tend to be activists against the religion?

by Vanderhoven7 in

j. arden writes.

first of all an apostate is literally just someone who left.

most jws are technically apostates from the religions they were raised in.

BoogerMan

If any of my former JW associates labelled me as "an apostate," I'd ask them to explain to me exactly what they think an apostate is - not what the org tells them it means.*

"Heresy, denial or doubt of any defined doctrine, is sharply distinguished from apostasy, which denotes deliberate abandonment of the Christian faith itself."

https://www.encyclopedia.com/history/dictionaries-thesauruses-pictures-and-press-releases/heresy-and-apostasy

Many people abandon the denomination/org/sect of JW's, but not Christianity.

Christianity & the org are not one and the same!

*Likewise with the word "Christendom." ("Christian people or countries as a whole" - https://dictionary.cambridge.org/dictionary/english/christendom)

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"Outside the realms" of the words meaning?

by Blotty in

i was recently doing some research and came across this curious quite from dr beduhn - i can't say how valid it is or if he actually said it (source linked).

but this got me thinking i don't think there is anything in any bible where it is a "deliberate" distortion or the words go against the "possible range of meanings the greek" could have.

i know beduhn is not considered an authority however he does have a point - if its in the range of meanings it is by no means a mistranslation & cannot be pointed out as such.

BoogerMan

In both of the quoted scriptures from the NWT, "the society" aka "the organization" has falsely translated the Greek word phobos - phobia = fear;

(1 Peter 3:2) ...together with deep respect.

(1 Peter 3:15) ....but doing so with a mild temper and deep respect.

Peter was reminding Christians & their wives to maintain their Godly-fear; nothing to do with "deep respect."

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Jesus' language was extravagant? Really?

by BoogerMan in

w80 10/1 p. 25 after these “last days” god’s messianic kingdom!

- "when speaking of those final days of the jewish system of things, jesus said: “then there will be great tribulation such as has not occurred since the world’s beginning until now, no, nor will occur again.” reportedly, there were 97,000 jews inside jerusalem that survived the siege and desolation of their holy city and its temple built by king herod.

however, these were not the “chosen ones” on whose account that “great tribulation” was shortened.

BoogerMan

w80 10/1 p. 25 After These “Last Days” God’s Messianic Kingdom! - "When speaking of those final days of the Jewish system of things, Jesus said: “Then there will be great tribulation such as has not occurred since the world’s beginning until now, no, nor will occur again.” Reportedly, there were 97,000 Jews inside Jerusalem that survived the siege and desolation of their holy city and its temple built by King Herod. However, these were not the “chosen ones” on whose account that “great tribulation” was shortened. Rather, these were the Christians, who, after the lifting of the first siege in 66 C.E., promptly obeyed Jesus’ advice as given in Matthew 24:16-20 and fled from the doomed city to outside the province of Judea. All of that back there was bad enough. But if Jesus’ words about it in Matthew 24:20 ("no, nor will occur again) and Mark 13:19 ("...and will not occur again") are restricted to just the end of Jerusalem in 70 C.E., then his language regarding this becomes extravagant. It certainly was not the greatest tribulation ever to occur in all recorded human history." (JW's: which part of "not occur again" is hard to understand? 🤣🤣)

Scripturally speaking, if the flood in Noah's day wiped out at least 99.99% of the world's population, that would easily qualify as the greatest tribulation "in all recorded human history." But Jesus wasn't talking about that; he was describing the greatest tribulation to ever occur in the Jewish nation - not "the world."

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Awake! No.1 2023, A United Nations Advertisement?

by EasyPrompt in

awake!

magazine no.1 2023 and united nations promotions.

page 3, "world meteorological association".

BoogerMan

I am very distrustful of anything with the word 'world' in its title:

World Economic Forum, World Bank, World Health Organization, World Federation of United Nations Associations, New World Translation.

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JW Writing Committee has a dilemma with Stephen's prayer

by BoogerMan in

(acts 7:59, 60) "and they went on casting stones at stephen as he made appeal* and said: “lord jesus, receive my spirit.” then, bending his knees, he cried out with a strong voice: “jehovah, do not charge this sin against them.” and after saying this he fell asleep [in death].

" *or, “invocation; prayer.” nwt reference bible).

w59 2/1 p. 96 - jesus had taught his followers that the father authorized him to raise others to life.

BoogerMan

@ EasyPrompt: the org eventually got it straight, but still rejects the notion of Christians talking to their mediator/intercessor.

w08 5/15 p. 31 par. 2 - Fully aware that Jesus had been given the power to resurrect the dead, Stephen spoke, but did not pray, directly to Jesus, asking Him to safeguard his spirit.

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JW Writing Committee has a dilemma with Stephen's prayer

by BoogerMan in

(acts 7:59, 60) "and they went on casting stones at stephen as he made appeal* and said: “lord jesus, receive my spirit.” then, bending his knees, he cried out with a strong voice: “jehovah, do not charge this sin against them.” and after saying this he fell asleep [in death].

" *or, “invocation; prayer.” nwt reference bible).

w59 2/1 p. 96 - jesus had taught his followers that the father authorized him to raise others to life.

BoogerMan

I neither said that Stephen prayed nor did I agree with the WT "explanation."

The org says he prayed - and then they had a problem with the word "prayer."

w59 2/1 p. 96 - ".....and his prayer indicates proper understanding on his part."

Stephen, Saul/Paul, & John each had a brief exchange with Christ - not a prayer. After all, people should be able to address their mediator.

Sorry for the confusion.

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"the other sheep will feed the other sheep"

by enoughisenough in

interesting statement in this video...https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zchsc1wedns.

BoogerMan

CATEGORICAL & VERIFIABLE FACT: The G.B./faithful slave does NOT provide "food at the proper time."

The elite at the top of the WTBTS pyramid delegated that job to the (non-anointed) minions in their Writing Committees who produce everything for JW's.

The Guardians Of Doctrine (GODS) then claim the credit.

@ JW wives: If your husband claimed all the credit for making a large meal for fellow JW's - simply because he provided the finance - would you be pleased at such a lie?

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JW Writing Committee has a dilemma with Stephen's prayer

by BoogerMan in

(acts 7:59, 60) "and they went on casting stones at stephen as he made appeal* and said: “lord jesus, receive my spirit.” then, bending his knees, he cried out with a strong voice: “jehovah, do not charge this sin against them.” and after saying this he fell asleep [in death].

" *or, “invocation; prayer.” nwt reference bible).

w59 2/1 p. 96 - jesus had taught his followers that the father authorized him to raise others to life.

BoogerMan

(Acts 7:59, 60) "And they went on casting stones at Stephen as he made appeal* and said: “Lord Jesus, receive my spirit.” Then, bending his knees, he cried out with a strong voice: “Jehovah, do not charge this sin against them.” And after saying this he fell asleep [in death]." *Or, “invocation; prayer.” NWT Reference Bible)

w59 2/1 p. 96 - Jesus had taught his followers that the Father authorized him to raise others to life. So it was proper for Stephen to petition Jesus over this matter, and his prayer indicates proper understanding on his part.

w05 1/1 p. 31 - Does Stephen’s brief utterance set a precedent for praying to Jesus? Not at all.... Also, these circumstances were exceptional. The only other case of such an utterance being directed to Jesus is that of the apostle John,* who similarly addressed Jesus directly when he saw Him in vision.

* False teaching! 🤣 This is either a blatant lie, or someone in the Writing Committee doesn't know what the Bible "really" teaches. (see Acts 9:4, 5 when Saul/Paul spoke to Jesus)

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Truth about Covid vaccines

by Kosonen in

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friends

i hope the truth about the covid vaccines becomes public knowledge as it does now in australia.

senator malcom roberts tells it all in his speach.

https://youtu.be/vrlm8ybdhiy.

BoogerMan

Have you watched the new TV series 'PAINKILLER?'

When watching it, just exchange the word "oxycontin" with "mRNA vaccine," and it will create a clear picture in your mind of Big Pharma's reach & control of government officials - as well as the medical profession.

For all those who swallowed the covid Kool-Aid and say, "the vaccines saved millions of lives," I would say, "I never got jabbed but I survived without any problems because I ate a Snickers bar every day, and that is what protected me."

My claim is as "scientific & verifiable" as their nonsensical narrative.

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Are we living in the LAST DAYS?

by Fisherman in

are we living in the prophetic last days that will climax into armageddon?

if this is true then how long should it take?

as jw saw it, wt compared timing to within a generation using 70 ad as a parallel.

BoogerMan

@ Rules & Regulations - Mr. Lett of the G.B./faithful slave/guardians of doctrine, i.e. those who cannot be questioned, used one word of Luke 21:11 (pestilence) to "prove" that we're living in the last days.

To Mr. Lett & Co.: the rest of the scripture says, "...and from heaven great signs."

Where are these divinely provided "great signs"? I must have missed them when I was on the loo.

You are anti-Christ - by contradicting Jesus' words: (Acts 1:7) "He said to them: “It does not belong to you to know the times or seasons that the Father has placed in his own jurisdiction."

Stop being false prophets and puppets of a multi-billion dollar business corporation, deluding millions.
Out of your own mouths you condemn yourselves as charlatans. You know exactly what you are doing!