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  The August 2024 Watchtower controversy and potential further changes

  by ukpimo in

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  2. bible

  as an educated guess, the august 2024 watchtower may be delayed because 2 complicated subjects need to be discussed in this issue which haven't yet been approved to be included in the revised shepherding textbook.

  perhaps the revised shepherding textbook must be finalised before this watchtower is released publicly.. the 2 subjects may be as follows:.

  how to shepherd and appoint brothers based on the removal of the hour requirements, getting to know the brothers instead (does this mean prioritising appointing men who have auxiliary pioneered during the co visit and campaigns or men who are regular pioneers?).

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  Is it just me, or does anyone else suspect that the cult's hierarchy is pulling JW's and ex-JW's chains with their calculated delay in publishing it?

  As Billy Shakespeare would say, "Much ado about nothing."
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  Still Confused About The FDS

  by NotFormer in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  this was prompted by another thread where it was revealed that the gb were referred to as "our future kings" in a wt video.

  https://www.jehovahs-witness.com/topic/4911685446402048/fun-moment.

  if i've got it right, the 144,000 are (or were until recently) the fds.

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  According to the Bible, who does Jesus say are his 'brothers'? (as per Matthew 25:40)

  (Matthew 12:50; Mark 3:35; Luke 8:21; John 1:12,13; Rom. 8:14; 1 John 5:1 (RSV)

  Jesus said that the meek would inherit the earth, therefore, all Christians (believers) become joint heirs with Christ when he inherits his reward from his heavenly Father.

  Jesus addressed God as his Father. How were all his disciples to address God? (Matt. 6:9)
  

  The Bible promises that Jesus would have one flock of sheep, not two different "classes," (John 10:16) and that there was one eternal hope (Psalm 37:29) - not two different hopes in heaven & earth!

  The Scrptures above clearly identify to whom they apply - all Christians in the one flock.

  (Matthew 12:50) For whoever does the will of my Father who is in heaven, that one is my brother and sister and mother.”

  (Mark 3:35) Whoever does the will of God, this one is my brother and sister and mother.”

  (Luke 8:21) In reply he said to them: “My mother and my brothers are these who hear the word of God and do it.”

  (John 1:12, 13) However, to all who did receive him, he gave authority to become God’s children, because they were exercising faith in his name. And they were born, not from blood or from a fleshly will or from man’s will, but from God.

  (Romans 8:14) For all who are led by God’s spirit are indeed God’s sons.

  (1 John 5:1) Everyone who believes that Jesus is the Christ has been born from God, and everyone who loves the one who caused to be born loves him who has been born from that one.
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  102 year old mantra by JW's

  by BoogerMan in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  watchtower november 1, 1922: cedar point, ohio - "monday was “ service day,” and on tuesday morning several hundred automobiles, each car loaded with workers and books, canvassed the northern part of ohio.

  a report of this appears herein.

  on tuesday evening following this canvass a testimony meeting was held, and every one present agreed that it was the most wonderful, heart-inspiring testimony meeting he had ever attended.".

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  Watchtower November 1, 1922: Cedar Point, Ohio - "Monday was “ Service Day,” and on Tuesday morning several hundred automobiles, each car loaded with workers and books, canvassed the northern part of Ohio. A report of this appears herein. On Tuesday evening following this canvass a testimony meeting was held, and every one present agreed that it was the most wonderful, heart-inspiring testimony meeting he had ever attended."

  Some things never change!
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  Branch dedication London

  by ExBethelitenowPIMA in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  i’ve been invited to the dedication at chelmsford.. it’s crazy here, several thousand ex bethelites here for lots of events.

  all hotels booked.

  big marquee.

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  Three have beards??????

  That'll be the G.B.'s tribute to ZZ TOP! (Two REAL beards and one named Beard)
  
  
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  The apostle Paul was WRONGLY inspired by the H.S.: The New Covenant is NOT everlasting!

  by BoogerMan in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  only its benefits will be everlasting.

  (for the earthly 2nd class sheep).

  w80 7/1 p. 31 - questions from readers - why does the november 15, 1979, issue of the watchtower (pages 26, 27) speak of the “new covenant” being near the end of its operation, when hebrews 13:20 speaks of this covenant as being “an everlasting covenant”?

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  OOPS!!

  (Jeremiah 31:31, 33) “Look! There are days coming,” is the utterance of Jehovah, “and I will conclude with the house of Israel and with the house of Judah a new covenant; “For this is the covenant that I shall conclude with the house of Israel after those days,” is the utterance of Jehovah. “I will put my law within them, and in their heart I shall write it. And I will become their God, and they themselves will become my people.144,000 immortal Melchizedek-type king/priests”
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  The apostle Paul was WRONGLY inspired by the H.S.: The New Covenant is NOT everlasting!

  by BoogerMan in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  only its benefits will be everlasting.

  (for the earthly 2nd class sheep).

  w80 7/1 p. 31 - questions from readers - why does the november 15, 1979, issue of the watchtower (pages 26, 27) speak of the “new covenant” being near the end of its operation, when hebrews 13:20 speaks of this covenant as being “an everlasting covenant”?

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  Only its benefits will be everlasting. (for the earthly 2nd class sheep)

  w80 7/1 p. 31 - Questions From Readers - Why does the November 15, 1979, issue of The Watchtower (pages 26, 27) speak of the “new covenant” being near the end of its operation, when Hebrews 13:20 speaks of this covenant as being “an everlasting covenant”?

  "The Watchtower stated: "Evidently the new covenant is nearing the end of its operation for the purpose of producing 144,000 spiritual Israelites....When the last of these approved spiritual Israelites cease to be ‘men’ because of earthly death and a resurrection to a share in the heavenly kingdom, then the mediatorship of Jesus Christ will cease also. Note that The Watchtower did not say that the benefits of this new covenant would cease. Those who live on earth will benefit in an everlasting way from the fact that this new covenant fulfilled its purpose in producing 144,000 spiritual sons of God who will reign as joint heirs with Christ in the heavens."
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  Happy Star Wars Day............

  by BoogerMan in

  1. social
  2. humour

  ..............to all the star wars fans who have a lisp!.

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  ..............to all the Star Wars fans who have a lisp!
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  Moving on in a new chapter

  by redsetter2 in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  moving on is the hardest thing anyone has to cope with.. i have officially left the org.

  and now it feels my family have been waiting to do this for a long time, officially shunning me, even though they were practically doing this whilst i was still in.. it feels like i've accomplished a victory and at the same time i feel guilty i was tangled up in communication with someone who "hid who they were" claiming to leak information from bethel.

  i got the call from the man who i thought i worked with.

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  The WTBTS chariot has updated its business strategies, been restructured, remodelled, and has/will replace old-school GB members with more business/liberal-minded ones.

  In other words, the "Society's" radical metamorphosis and "new understandings" are going to continue, until the powers-that-be are satisfied with the updated, 21st century business plan.
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  It's that time - 'When Uranus and Jupiter meet' - how long before WW III?

  by was a new boy in

  1. social
  2. current

  it took 117 days in 1914 from when uranus and jupiter met on march 4, till the start of ww i on june 28,1914.. another conjunction today; 117 days from today is aug.16, 2024.. .

  https://www.astropro.com/features/tables/geo/ju-ur/ju-000-ur/ju000ur6.html.

  https://avoidjw.org/archive/magazines/1900-1909/.

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  A prominent evangelical on TV recently stated that World War 3 will be here within the next 5 years - unless there's a huge resurgence worldwide in Christianity.

  In other words, more financial contributors to his denomination.
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  New light: the GB are infallible

  by AEnEm in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  amazing new light in the latest morning worship by gary breaux.

  the gb "never lie or deceive us.

  we can have absolute trust in the governing body".. he then makes a very helpful point, so as to avoid being deceived and avoid lies.

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  Hey Gary, your Governing Body told 3 lies regarding just one Scipture.

  The evil slave is alive & kicking - in the JW HQ.

  w10 4/15 p. 11 par. 17 - "How will Jehovah use his holy spirit in the coming new world? That spirit will be the force behind the new scrolls that will be opened at that time. (Rev. 20:12) What will these contain? Evidently, Jehovah’s detailed requirements for us during the thousand years."

  Nowhere in the scripture does it say "new" scrolls.

  Nowhere in the scripture does it say that the scrolls contain "new teachings" or "detailed requirements" - they contain judgements.

  Nowhere in the scripture does it say the scrolls are opened during the millennium. Verses 1-10 show that the scrolls are opened after Satan is destroyed.