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Proof of two destinies for believers in the Bible, heavenly and earthly
by slimboyfat inthe jw idea that believers are destined either for heavenly life or for endless life on earth comes in for significant criticism by critics of various kinds.
even some groups, such as the christadelphians, who share belief in a future paradise earth, don’t share the view that some christians are destined for life in heaven.
yet there is surprisingly quite a lot of evidence in the bible for the existence of two distinct groups of believers.
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Even the CATHOLIC ENCYCLOPEDIA got it wrong about JW's!
by BoogerMan inw12 3/1 p. 4 “remain in my word” - "regarding jehovah’s witnesses, the new catholic encyclopedia states: “they regard the bible as their only source of belief and rule of conduct.”" .
time for a revised new catholic encyclopedia to include, "and their g.b.".
w12 4/1 p. 3 in search of answers - "is there one reliable source of information that can give authoritative answers to our questions about jesus?
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w12 3/1 p. 4 “Remain in My Word” - "Regarding Jehovah’s Witnesses, the New Catholic Encyclopedia states: “They regard the Bible as their only source of belief and rule of conduct.”"
Time for a REVISED New Catholic Encyclopedia to include, "And their G.B."
P.S. w12 4/1 p. 3 In Search of Answers - "Is there one reliable source of information that can give authoritative answers to our questions about Jesus? The publishers of this journal believe that the Bible is the Word of God and that it alone tells us the whole truth about Jesus."
P.P.S. w68 1/1 p. 5 - "The only source of information that supplies the truth...is the Holy Bible." 😄
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Should we trust con-men to tell us the TRUTH about themselves?
by BoogerMan inif god's self-appointed "slave" says so, it must be the right thing to do!.
w15 9/1 p. 3 who are jehovah’s witnesses?
- "would you like to receive truthful answers to your questions about jehovah’s witnesses?
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Of course we should! If God's self-appointed "slave" says so, it must be the right thing to do!
w15 9/1 p. 3 Who Are Jehovah’s Witnesses? - "Would you like to receive truthful answers to your questions about Jehovah’s Witnesses? We encourage you to turn to the most knowledgeable source—Jehovah’s Witnesses themselves, who publish this magazine." (Proverbs 14:15 - "The naive person believes every word, But the shrewd one ponders each step.")
The org actually cited Proverbs 14:15! Cognitive dissonance at its best.
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Link to United Nations Pact For The Future signed Sept 22 2024
by KerryKing inthe world's heads of state/governments have already given their power to the united nations.. apparently it wasn't even voted on.
click on the language you want and download .
https://www.undocs.org/home/mobile?finalsymbol=a%2f79%2fl.2&language=e&devicetype=mobile&langrequested=false.
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@ KERRYKING - "The World's Heads of State/Governments have already given their power to the United Nations."
From what I've read, your assessment seems overly-optimistic.
7. Today, we pledge a new beginning in multilateralism. The actions in this Pact aim to ensure that the United Nations and other key multilateral institutions can deliver a better future for people and planet,..
Language like this which is used throughout the Pact doesn't indicate to me that the U.N. feels it has total power & control over all nations.
Such a situation/agreement would have been world news!
Maybe soon..........
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Leaked Annual Meeting Video: "Expect Sudden Changes" Jeffrey Jackson
by raymond frantz inhttps://youtu.be/uxqqyrrffow?si=wo0jotyvjg76oljk.
well that's sort of related to the next talk on our program brother jeffrey jackson will discuss the theme don't be surprised by sudden changes, brother jeff you have our.
attention well i'm sure we all agree with this fact in recent years there have been a lot of changes even since the last annual meeting there have been many changes some of them perhaps are a little surprising or may seem to be sudden but you know brothers and sisters when we look back on how these changes have come we can see that jehovah has gradually prepared us for each of these adjustments and changes let's review some of the recent changes we've had what changes have we seen with regard to our understand understanding of bible teachings at the 2021 annual meeting we received an adjusted understanding of john 529 it was explained that the resurrection of judgment will not be a judgment of condemnation rather it will be more like a period of probation the unrighteous mentioned at acts 24:15 will have an opportunity to gain everlasting life but their names will not be written wr in the book of life at the time of their resurrection to have their names eventually written in that book these ones will need to respond positively to the great educational work that will take place during the thousand-year reign then at the annual meeting in 2023 we gained enhanced insight into what we do know and what we don't know concerning jehovah's judgments we learned that the door of opportunity for people to take a stand for the kingdom does not shut when the great tribulation starts with the destruction of false religion at that time perhaps some will be like the egyptians in moses day who took a last minute stand and joined the exodus of god's people at the same annual meeting we adjusted our views with regard to jehovah's judgments of those who died in the flood and those who were destroyed in sodom and gomorrah also at that annual meeting an adjustment was made regarding the reporting of our time and activity in our preaching work instead of focusing on reports we try to make good use of every opportunity to witness then we receive the 2024 governing body update number two in that update we saw the need to adjust how we interact with those who have committed serious sins and have been removed from the congregation what other major adjustments have we recently seen in our preaching work the emphasis now is on studing bible studies and making disciples not on distributing literature to that end the focus is on studying meaningful conversations not just on using memorized presentations were you surprised by these adjustments perhaps so but as we look back we see how one adjustment in understanding gradually helped us with the next adjustment isn't it true that gradually jehovah has prepared us and when we look back on it we see how logical this training has been to refine our understanding but events in the world likewise have changed it's true sometimes in the world you have sudden changes for example the pandemic but often times change in the world is gradual isn't it true with regard to the view of morality homosexuality abortion even what's acceptable and not acceptable with regard to conduct all of that has happened gradually in the world and it's not until you look back and see how different the world is today with regard to those matters that we see that there have been a lot of changes but this can be dangerous because as things gradually change we may get used to gradual change and forget that there are some sudden changes about to occur uh let's take our bibles please and if you turn with me to the book of luke chap 21 now this is an example of sudden change in luke chap 21 uh notice there in verse 34 the words of our lord jesus are recorded and he said in verse 34 but pay attention to yourselves that your hearts never become weighed down with oving and heavy drinking and anxieties of life and suddenly suddenly that they be instantly instantly upon you it's interesting to note that jesus had already said that this day he was referring to would occur at a time that we don't think is likely so what lesson do we learn from what jesus said it's a warning isn't it that we can't just sit back and think well things are gradually going to develop we know which way it's going and maybe it's not going to happen yet you know got a little bit more wiggle room there with regard to the schedule but you see that's dangerous thinking now what we're going to do is consider two examples of areas where perhaps we could be a little guilty with regard to that for example our view as with regard to the number of anointed ones remaining on the earth now for many years what did we think we thought well that number would go down and down and down and down now i don't know about you but me i you when that report came out just how many how many partakers and and what were we thinking we probably you maybe we didn't say it but we were thinking you know the number will go down down down down and there'll be just a couple of old guys in a wheelchair who will get their reward well i'm exaggerating but that was sort of the feeling wasn't it but now what have we seen in recent years those numbers have gone up and up and not only that younger brothers have been appointed on the governing body now i know what you're all thinking two new ones how old are they we know you're not googling now but you will be but you see we need to be careful about what we're thinking with regard to the number of anointed ones left on earth you see 19 years ago i was appointed on the governing body even i thought i was too young now they tell me i'm not so young anymore but do we see the point what does the bible actually tell us with regard to this well it doesn't say the number would just dwindle down to just having a few uh older ones left no the great crowd of other sheep will be judged on the basis of how they deal with
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@ Sea Breeze - You've got it all wrong!
The self-proclaimed "faithful slave" assures us that a person's own death washes their sins away - based on the org's "inspired understanding" of Romans 6:7 - so people won't be judged on their previous sins!
Therefore, Jack the Ripper and every other evil scumbag who avoided capture & punishment, have absolutely nothing to worry about when they wake up! 😀
Divine justice????
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Leaked Annual Meeting Video: "Expect Sudden Changes" Jeffrey Jackson
by raymond frantz inhttps://youtu.be/uxqqyrrffow?si=wo0jotyvjg76oljk.
well that's sort of related to the next talk on our program brother jeffrey jackson will discuss the theme don't be surprised by sudden changes, brother jeff you have our.
attention well i'm sure we all agree with this fact in recent years there have been a lot of changes even since the last annual meeting there have been many changes some of them perhaps are a little surprising or may seem to be sudden but you know brothers and sisters when we look back on how these changes have come we can see that jehovah has gradually prepared us for each of these adjustments and changes let's review some of the recent changes we've had what changes have we seen with regard to our understand understanding of bible teachings at the 2021 annual meeting we received an adjusted understanding of john 529 it was explained that the resurrection of judgment will not be a judgment of condemnation rather it will be more like a period of probation the unrighteous mentioned at acts 24:15 will have an opportunity to gain everlasting life but their names will not be written wr in the book of life at the time of their resurrection to have their names eventually written in that book these ones will need to respond positively to the great educational work that will take place during the thousand-year reign then at the annual meeting in 2023 we gained enhanced insight into what we do know and what we don't know concerning jehovah's judgments we learned that the door of opportunity for people to take a stand for the kingdom does not shut when the great tribulation starts with the destruction of false religion at that time perhaps some will be like the egyptians in moses day who took a last minute stand and joined the exodus of god's people at the same annual meeting we adjusted our views with regard to jehovah's judgments of those who died in the flood and those who were destroyed in sodom and gomorrah also at that annual meeting an adjustment was made regarding the reporting of our time and activity in our preaching work instead of focusing on reports we try to make good use of every opportunity to witness then we receive the 2024 governing body update number two in that update we saw the need to adjust how we interact with those who have committed serious sins and have been removed from the congregation what other major adjustments have we recently seen in our preaching work the emphasis now is on studing bible studies and making disciples not on distributing literature to that end the focus is on studying meaningful conversations not just on using memorized presentations were you surprised by these adjustments perhaps so but as we look back we see how one adjustment in understanding gradually helped us with the next adjustment isn't it true that gradually jehovah has prepared us and when we look back on it we see how logical this training has been to refine our understanding but events in the world likewise have changed it's true sometimes in the world you have sudden changes for example the pandemic but often times change in the world is gradual isn't it true with regard to the view of morality homosexuality abortion even what's acceptable and not acceptable with regard to conduct all of that has happened gradually in the world and it's not until you look back and see how different the world is today with regard to those matters that we see that there have been a lot of changes but this can be dangerous because as things gradually change we may get used to gradual change and forget that there are some sudden changes about to occur uh let's take our bibles please and if you turn with me to the book of luke chap 21 now this is an example of sudden change in luke chap 21 uh notice there in verse 34 the words of our lord jesus are recorded and he said in verse 34 but pay attention to yourselves that your hearts never become weighed down with oving and heavy drinking and anxieties of life and suddenly suddenly that they be instantly instantly upon you it's interesting to note that jesus had already said that this day he was referring to would occur at a time that we don't think is likely so what lesson do we learn from what jesus said it's a warning isn't it that we can't just sit back and think well things are gradually going to develop we know which way it's going and maybe it's not going to happen yet you know got a little bit more wiggle room there with regard to the schedule but you see that's dangerous thinking now what we're going to do is consider two examples of areas where perhaps we could be a little guilty with regard to that for example our view as with regard to the number of anointed ones remaining on the earth now for many years what did we think we thought well that number would go down and down and down and down now i don't know about you but me i you when that report came out just how many how many partakers and and what were we thinking we probably you maybe we didn't say it but we were thinking you know the number will go down down down down and there'll be just a couple of old guys in a wheelchair who will get their reward well i'm exaggerating but that was sort of the feeling wasn't it but now what have we seen in recent years those numbers have gone up and up and not only that younger brothers have been appointed on the governing body now i know what you're all thinking two new ones how old are they we know you're not googling now but you will be but you see we need to be careful about what we're thinking with regard to the number of anointed ones left on earth you see 19 years ago i was appointed on the governing body even i thought i was too young now they tell me i'm not so young anymore but do we see the point what does the bible actually tell us with regard to this well it doesn't say the number would just dwindle down to just having a few uh older ones left no the great crowd of other sheep will be judged on the basis of how they deal with
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"Things" could happen suddenly in the world?
No!!!!!!! I don't believe such a ludicrous statemenet.
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Link to United Nations Pact For The Future signed Sept 22 2024
by KerryKing inthe world's heads of state/governments have already given their power to the united nations.. apparently it wasn't even voted on.
click on the language you want and download .
https://www.undocs.org/home/mobile?finalsymbol=a%2f79%2fl.2&language=e&devicetype=mobile&langrequested=false.
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Project "Blue Beam"?
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Thank goodness for the org's insights!
by BoogerMan inw52 2/1 p. 78 par.
7 jehovah’s theocratic organization today "when christ came for judgment in 1918 (1) he found some associated with this group that thought the lord had delayed his coming and they were oppressing their fellow slaves in christ.
these were cast off as the “evil slave” class.
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If any JW can offer any divine/miraculous evidence to back up the org's self-fulfilling and self-aggrandizing claims below, I'd dearly love to see/hear it!
p.s. Nissan makes the best cars in the world! I know this, because they told me. It must be true.
w13 7/15 pp. 22-23 par. 12 - "As we learned earlier, at that time (1914) many groups claimed to be Christian. From which group would Jesus select and appoint the faithful slave? That question was answered after he and his Father came and inspected the temple, or spiritual arrangement for worship, from 1914 to the early part of 1919. They were pleased with a small band of loyal Bible Students who showed that their heart was with Jehovah and his Word. Of course, they needed some cleansing, but they humbly responded during a brief period of testing and refining. Those faithful Bible Students were true Christian wheat. In 1919, a time of spiritual revival, Jesus selected capable anointed brothers from among them to be the faithful and discreet slave and appointed them over his domestics."
w08 1/15 p. 24 par. 1 - "GOD’S WORD identifies anointed Christians who are caring for Christ’s interests on earth as “the faithful and discreet slave.” When Christ inspected the “slave” in 1918, he found those anointed ones on earth to be faithful in providing spiritual “food at the proper time.”
w90 3/15 p. 14 par. 21 - "In 1918, when Jesus Christ inspected those claiming to be his slaves, he found an international group of Christians publishing Bible truths for use both inside the congregation and outside in the preaching work. In 1919 it truly turned out to be as Christ had foretold: “Happy is that slave if his master on arriving finds him doing so. Truly I say to you, He will appoint him over all his belongings.” These true Christians entered into the joy of their Master. Having shown themselves “faithful over a few things,” they were appointed by the Master to be “over many things.”
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Thank goodness for the org's insights!
by BoogerMan inw52 2/1 p. 78 par.
7 jehovah’s theocratic organization today "when christ came for judgment in 1918 (1) he found some associated with this group that thought the lord had delayed his coming and they were oppressing their fellow slaves in christ.
these were cast off as the “evil slave” class.
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w52 2/1 p. 78 par. 7 Jehovah’s Theocratic Organization Today "When Christ came for judgment in 1918 (1) he found some associated with this group that thought the Lord had delayed his coming and they were oppressing their fellow slaves in Christ. These were cast off as the “evil slave” class. (2) Those faithfully serving God were identified (3) as the “faithful and discreet slave” class."
1) Did the Bible tell JW's this? Nope - the org did!
2) Who told JW's in 2013 that the evil slave class was now a myth? The org did!
3) Exactly who "identified" the “faithful and discreet slave” class for us? Was it God or Jesus? Nope - the org did!
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Stop MRNA vaccines - Australian Prime Minister is warned
by BoogerMan inhuge rises in cancers in australia, and synthetic dna contamination from the vaccines is 145 times higher than australia's safety limits!.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=edv1b4pg9re.
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Huge rises in cancers in Australia, and synthetic DNA contamination from the vaccines is 145 times higher than Australia's safety limits!