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  Narcissist challenges culture ingrained with the concept of “saving face” to perform humiliating retreat

  by slimboyfat in

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  2. current

  oh yeah, this is going to end well.

  hold on to your seats, folks, we’re on the front row of history for, as the chinese might say, “interesting times”.

  https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c8rgkkl7v8lo.

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  Can you imagine the closures of U.S. electrical goods retailers and the inevitable mass unemployment?

  Then again, it may create countless small businesses devoted to repairing appliances, as people learn to stop living in a disposable culture.
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  What "message" does the J.W Org. have to offer that will attract new members ?

  by Phizzy in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  the message they have been pushing for 150 years or so is "the end is near !"..

  in the educated, civilised world, people think " yea ?

  maybe because of economic meltdown exacerbated by climate change, but not from some intervention by a non-existent god".. "would you like a free bible study ?

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  2033 = 2000 years (2 days) since Christ redeemed what Adam lost 4000 years (4 days) prior. 😮
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  WT June 2025: We Are Not Blind We Just Don't Know

  by raymond frantz in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  https://youtu.be/7xumqjq3zfc?si=ivcg96t4dtgze4ft.

  so this is from the brand new watchtower study edition of june 2025 which has just been posted on jw.org .under the title: modestly accept what you do not know, a let’s read paragraphs in question 4 &5: “read matthew 24:36. we do not know when the end of this system of things will come.

  even jesus, while on earth, did not know the ‘day and hour.’ he later told the apostles that jehovah, who is the great timekeeper, keeps the timing of certain events ‘in his own jurisdiction,’ or authority.

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  Page 15, par. 7 - "We do well to focus on what we do know—that the last days began in 1914." 🤣

  111 years - and counting! (Spoiler alert: 2033 is the year!)

  Can the Borg point to the fulfilment of any of Revelation's prophecies/plagues occurring since 1914?????
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  Are There any JW Teaching that you DO Agree With?

  by NotFormer in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  (apologies for the typo in the title.

  "teaching" should read "teachings".

  i misread vanderhoven7's most recent post as being the above.

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  @ a watcher - Disagree.

  If you can reword Luke 19:10 to say "more than what was lost," redefine what a ransom actually restores, and contradict the apostle Paul's words at Ephesians 4:4-6 - "just as you were called to the one hope of your calling,"

  then perhaps I'd swallow the un-Biblical myth of some/all "good" people floating off to heaven, as opposed to "multiplying & filling the earth" and subjecting it.
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  WA bill mandating clergy report abuse clears Senate floor

  by blondie in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  https://columbiabasinherald.com/news/2025/mar/24/wa-bill-mandating-clergy-report-abuse-clears-senate-floor/ .

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  In U.K. law, an "accessory after the fact" is someone who, after a crime is committed, helps the criminal conceal it or aid their escape, and can be charged and punished as a separate offender, even if the principal offender is not convicted.

  Why doesn't this law apply to Elders (and parents!) when the crime of pedophila is committed?
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  The point of existence and how it refutes the Trinity

  by slimboyfat in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  rowan williams, the former archbishop of canterbury gave an interesting answer to the somewhat stark question, what’s the point of us existing?

  as a christian, my starting point is that we exist because the most fundamental form of activity, energy, call it what you like, that is there, is love.

  that is, it’s a willingness that the other should be.

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  Revelation 14:1 - "Then I looked, and there before me was the Lamb, standing on Mount Zion, and with him 144,000 who had his [Jesus'] name and his Father’s name written on their foreheads."

  For Trinitarians: Can you spot (and explain) the glaring omission?

  Clue: The 3rd part of the mythical co-equal, co-eternal godhead is going to be really cheesed off at being downgraded - just like the alleged anti-typical "other sheep."

  Not good enough to have his name stamped on a few resurrected foreheads?

  Biblical formula: Every time God & Christ are mentioned in a Scripture, the holy spirit is M.I.A.
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  Memorial Talk Training Video 2025 - Part 1

  by raymond frantz in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  https://youtu.be/4upzvonzg10?si=1bdvv6qzcuj2fo6s.

  oh, the joys of being one of jehovah’s witnesses, where you get to learn that heaven is a vip lounge for exactly 144,000 people—and sorry, everyone else, you're stuck in the “earth forever” section.

  yep, you get to mow grass in paradise while the chosen few float around in immortal glory.

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  Luke 19:10 - "For the Son of man came to seek and to save what was lost.”"

  What exactly did Adam lose for his descendants - life on earth as humans, or as spirit creatures in heaven?

  (Genesis 1:28) "Further, God blessed them and God said to them: “Be fruitful and become many and fill the earth heaven and subdue it..."

  No one - not even an angel from heaven - (Gal. 1:8) can convince me that a ransom ever buys back more than what was lost!

  
  
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  New World, New World Order, New System of Things

  by blondie in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  the wts has used to above terms, over the years, some more preferred in certain time periods.

  more though, but these occurred to me first.

  also the terms "new world" and "new world order" have been used by some us presidents and other leaders..

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  In 1974 "the New Order" was cool.

  w74 12/15 pp. 765-766 par. 36 - "And now, as the year 1975 opens up, some thousands of the anointed remnant, still alive on this earth, look ahead to realizing that joyful prospect. The increasing “great crowd” of their sheeplike companions look forward with them to entering the New Order without interruption of life. In the New Order Jehovah God will add to the “length of days” of the anointed remnant on earth to the point of satisfying the members thereof. It remains to be seen whether they will be yet retained here on earth to see the start of the resurrection of the earthly dead and to meet faithful witnesses of ancient, pre-Christian times."

  From 1952 until 1966, a new world order was the in-phrase:

  w66 12/1 p. 730 - "They will enjoy the fine privilege of seeing Satan’s complete organization on earth and all wickedness destroyed off of it and the dawning of a righteous new day in which a new world order under the peaceful kingdom of Christ will be ushered in to rule everlastingly."

  w52 7/15 p. 432 par. 1 - "From these it is possible to obtain a clearing vision of the details which will operate in the new world order of things.... God’s dealings with those ancient societies foreshadowed many developments in the new world order of things."

  w52 11/15 pp. 696-697 pars. 3 - 5 - "...they were given authority to become God’s children with the promise of everlasting life in that new world order, that new heavens and new earth where righteousness dwells....The answer is, because God not only determined and set his mind on that new world order.....From the foregoing we can appreciate it is not an impersonal kind of love that God has for a certain arrangement. That new world order under God’s kingdom is made up of individuals..."

  But how did the self-proclaimed "slave" come up with this non-Biblical catchphrase?

  w50 6/1 p. 171 - "The new world means more than the nations realize. It calls for more than they can muster. The bald fact is that they do not want it. For that reason the promised new world of lasting peace should not be confused with the so-called “new order” or “new world order” that was held up and widely advertised a few years ago by the political and religious dictators as a lure to the people."

  Oops!!! From Babylon the Great & the wild beast, no less. (surely they broke copyright laws!!!) 🤣

  The Awake! magazine is awash with articles which mention the new world order.
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  What is this?

  by Achille in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  this image is from "the watchtower" july 2024 (study edition):i can't figure out what that object is that is between the sleeping apostles.wath is it?

  a stick, a scroll of the scriptures?

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  @ ron w -

  
  
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  New World, New World Order, New System of Things

  by blondie in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  the wts has used to above terms, over the years, some more preferred in certain time periods.

  more though, but these occurred to me first.

  also the terms "new world" and "new world order" have been used by some us presidents and other leaders..

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  The Borg should've just stuck to the official wording. 😀

  (Isaiah 65:17) "For look! I am creating new heavens and a new earth;"

  (Isaiah 66:22) “For just as the new heavens and the new earth that I am making...”

  (2 Peter 3:13) "But there are new heavens and a new earth that we are awaiting...."

  (Revelation 21:1) "And I saw a new heaven and a new earth;"