hearings are on the schedule for abc, bbc, cbs, cnn, msnbc and nbc.
not on fox "news".. will you be watching?
or maybe .
One question for you Shadowclown. Did you watch the entire events of January 6th LIVE from MULTIPLE news outlets including “Alternative” Media?
Yes or No?
Anyone who did not and is supporting the current 1984-like production by Sea-Hag Pelosi and Co. have been thoroughly brainwashed and may deserve to be ruled by corrupt F-tards.
JJ
http://www.jw-media.org/aboutjw/article23.htm.
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I have a question. Although I personally believe that the WTBTS is guilty of negligence, how were they legally found guilty? Candice was abused before California made it mandatory for clergy to report abuse to the proper authorities. I believe 1997 was when the mandatory reporting for Clergy came into effect. I am just curious about this. Any ideas? Also, are there any transcripts yet, I would love to read those!
the society is going to squeak by on 1914. in 2014, many who even adhere to the 1914 millions living prophecy will be shaken, many of those even leaving.
but the society isn't actively printing reminders about the 1914 millions living prophecy.. many of you who were/are witnesses know better than anyone that unless it's brought to their attention in 2013, they won't even notice the slip-up.
of course, there is the leeway given of up-to 2034 for this to be a bust.
Hello everyone,
I am still an insider. I know cedar from JWstruggle. Here is an interesting tidbit I found on the Watchtower cd library. I imagine it was meant to be erased, who knows?.... For some reason I can't get it to post. If you want go to Jwstruggle and at the forums look for:
WATCHTOWER 2099!!!
I was trying to copy and paste, but It won't work. I am pretty computer illiterate Help?
this thread is dedicated to the judgemental fat and not so jolly elders and elderettes (non judgemental loving brethren, please disregard!)..
in my county, some of our appointed brothers and sisters are suffering from obesity, eating disorders and heavy drinkings.
what is the best way to approach brothers in charge, who are morbidly overweight, don't care about their physical appearance?
Gluttony will never be used as reason to council someone. If someone is already a Fat-cat in the Org and they are obese, they will not change in my opinion. They more than likely have a certain mindset, a narrow view and an aversion to looking in the mirror, and the " mirror of God's word " because the truth is hard to take. Knowing and admitting the truth requires action, which is the opposite of greed and laziness. On the other hand being to harsh with people who obviously have issues with food, probably because of emotional issues, would be cruel and unloving.
They do need help to see the situation they are in. They are showing a disrespect for the gift of life. I am sure all people are different biologically, but wouldn't being obese and the stress it causes harm you just as much as any " defilement of the flesh " ? Surely it shortens your life as much as smoking, although I don't know any figures to back that up. Maybe obesity should be a DF'ing offense! Yes, there are some medical reasons, but as shows like THE BIGGEST LOSER have proven, it is mostly lifestyle choices.
One outspoken and funny ( and sometimes unpopular ) brother gave a talk concerning the " Obesity " Awake magazine. He said from stage that
" People like to say that it is in their genes, they can't help it.. Well, have you ever seen a fat person in a concentration camp!? Wait till you get thrown in prison during a time of persecution and then tell me it's in your genes.." WOW!
i need to speak to anyone who is a mature christian.
someone who has maintained their faith in jehovah and in christ jesus.
i have felt that many things i have been taught are inconsistent for some time.
Thanks for all the advice, and for listening. Being able to speak freely is sooo good! I have always thought that of all the people i know of Jws have the greatest chance of going crazy. I am starting to really understand why. Its funny, in the last few months, I have been really praying that I wont be asked to be a servant until the time is right because I dont want to be a hypocrite. Makes you wonder.... Also, I read C.O.C first and I am well into " in search of christian freedom", I have not read anything else...yet.
i'm on page 90 right now...the info is definitely new and gives me a totally diff view as to how i used to think of faithful and discreet slave.
i was thoroughly disgusted with the way the brothers handled the oral sex and leadership problem and the insight on the scriptures book...... still have alot of questions though.
Also, remember not to put faith in every word. Not on this site or any other. Be cautious and Shrewd, do not let your Emotions overcome your reason.
i'm on page 90 right now...the info is definitely new and gives me a totally diff view as to how i used to think of faithful and discreet slave.
i was thoroughly disgusted with the way the brothers handled the oral sex and leadership problem and the insight on the scriptures book...... still have alot of questions though.
Hi.
You took a huge step just posting your feelings here. I had strong feelings for years about things not adding up, but who can you talk to? I just recently Finished COC and have been reading In search of Christian Freedom. I know it is mind blowing, Liberating and scary at the same time, just like many others have told you. If you look at my first post, which was just this week, I was very upset. I already feel so much better. And I bet you do as well, even though you are not sure exactly what you are doing yet. Make sure to check out Jwstruggle. I know you are not an Apostate, you love your creator and Christ Jesus or you would not be concerned over wrongs done in thier names. You are free to PM me as well. Our circumstances may be different, but the decicions we are going to have to make are the same. I know that you love people in your congregation as well, and you are afraid for them. Is there a secret war going on within the Organization, good vs evil, I dont know... but whatever the case may be Obey GOD as ruler rather than men... no man is infallible, and if they pretend to be so watch out. The apostle Paul said that we only have partial knowledge, but we have Christ Jesus example and our Power of Reason to help us see the truth. Remember that a little child can be taught the truth, there is no reason of endless changes and backtracking. This is only done when something is wrong, especially when past wrongs are not even admitted and apologies are never given. There should be no secrets kept between brothers and sisters, no secret books, no secret meetings. I also suggest reading Sheperding the Flock of God, the secret ELDERS manual. Stay strong and Pray. You are not alone.
Your brother
i need to speak to anyone who is a mature christian.
someone who has maintained their faith in jehovah and in christ jesus.
i have felt that many things i have been taught are inconsistent for some time.
You have made some good points. I Just spent some time with an Elders family last night and they are great people. I could not help but wonder what they would do if I voiced some of my feelings. He is new to the congregation and realizes that there are other Elders enforcing rules, but he is only 1 Elder out of 6. He went to college and has seen much of the real world, so he is more reasonable than most in his thinking. If it came down to Doctrine, I dont know....
I think that I have to be shrewd and lay low and educate myself and hold my tongue. Then again, I could take it to them so to speak. Honestly, wether or not I have an appointed position in the congregation is of no importance at this point. If I did my homework and wrote a letter to the Elders in a respectful manner, wouldnt their reaction give me alot of insight into thier hearts? Or is the fact that " rules " are made enough info already? I love to think that if presented with facts people will change, but we all know that is not always the case.
I think what bothers me the most is all the secrets, secret books, secret meetings, the thing that no rank and file ever knew were being discussed. Also, I have never seen 1 article saying, " We were wrong and we are sorry.". Or , " The guys before us were wrong and even though we didnt make those decicions we are apologizing for them, and it wont happen again on our watch.". How about re-instating people that were Df'd for no good reason? I have alot to think about. It sounds like many of you have been where i am standing. Thanks for the support.
i need to speak to anyone who is a mature christian.
someone who has maintained their faith in jehovah and in christ jesus.
i have felt that many things i have been taught are inconsistent for some time.
Thanks everyone, since posting here and visiting jwstruggle I already feel better. I have a CO visit coming up soon. I need to decide if this is " the hill I want to die on " or if I am just going enter stealth mode. I really feel like our 2 new elders can have a chance to correct things before I get involved. But with all that I am learning, I dont know if I would even accept an appointment. Is it delusional to think that I am going to get things to change that no one before has been able to change? I do agree that for the time being, I should just do what I always do: 1) Love the lowly ones in my congregation 2) do my best 3) be a real friend, and the most important, Obey GOD as ruler, rather than men.
it just occurred to me that we use the term "borg" when talking about the organization.
it's a cute play on words, but i wonder if the writers of star trek who came up with the idea of the borg had some experience or connection with witnesses.
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So is it possible do a " Picard " and bust it up from the inside? Do you think others are attempting just that as we speak? Or is it Futile? Maybe " Q " will clean the slate for us. Yes... i am a huge nerd....
