Posts by pettygrudger

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Heh Heh Heh..So Meester Green..

by Englishman in

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a nice madeira on this one perhaps?.

or perhaps something a little more festive?.

englishman.

Compromise

by teejay in

one of the fundamental keys to a successful marriage.

doing stuff you wouldn't ordinarily do... stuff you don't and wouldn't ever do by nature, but you do it because you're married to this particular person.

without it a marriage is, at best, an unhappy situation; at worst, a divorce waiting to happen.

pettygrudger

Anyway, I think compromise is good as long as its not a disguise for "control". Also if you give some people an inch they will take a mile

Very true!

I think "compromise" requires BOTH participants - and something being given from each other. If both aren't giving something - then this "compromise" is not that - it's really just one bowing to the other's will.

And that's okay in a relationship as well - sometimes no "compromises" are able to be done. What matters is to whom the situation matters the most and whether the other truly loves them enough to do this.

As far as meetings go - this is a personal decision between yourself, your wife & to some extent your daughter. Weighing the pros & cons and deciding what lessons you & your wife together, and separately, wish your daughter to learn. What you wish to teach her about marriage, life, one's personal beliefs, etc. should weigh heavily in the process, as I'm sure it does for you.

And I know my post was absolutely no help! Good luck with your choice - and know that no one has the right to condemn you for it. Plenty of people here compromise their own personal beliefs in order to keep marital harmony & stability for their children!And that's an honorable thing imho.

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Time to tell my story

by NoMoreMeetings in

my life story leaving jw's came out in the following newspaper article.

thought i'd share it with all of you.. i was an elder for 8 years.

for 2. left in 2002.. .

pettygrudger

NoMoreMeetings - my sincerest condolences on the loss of your son. As you have said, you will be together again, in a beautiful place and all of this will have been as a dream.

I have a question for you - it appears in the article that you have extensive scholastic teaching in religion - was this before or after your being a JW? I wonder sometimes how those that have studied so fervently the teachings of the Bible could still call the JW the "truth".

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I couldn't believe this email I just received from a JW friend.

by codeblue in

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friends

1. avoid riding in automobiles

because they are responsible for

20% of all fatal accidents.

pettygrudger

My mom told me once as a little girl that someday we would have to *move into* the KH during the Big-A - perhaps they should just all move a little earlier!

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The Bush administration changes a light bulb

by Pleasuredome in

how many members of the bush administration does it take to screw in a light bulb?.

the answer is ten:.

1. one to deny that a light bulb needs to be changed, .

pettygrudger

10. And finally one to confuse Americans about the difference between screwing a light bulb and screwing the country.

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friend

by teejay in

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friends

what's your definition?

how would you define the word... the person you'd refer to by that word?

what *is* a friend?

pettygrudger

I so badly want to say yes to this, but my experiences have been bad. I think that some people view online friends as totally disposable. It amazes me! I suppose it's because these people use the term so liberally that they don't honestly cherish you as a friend, instead they kinda like you right now, but maybe not later. I have three people online that I have never met, that I totally adore and trust. There are maybe a handful of others that I consider a friend in a loose sorta way. That sounds horrible doesn't it? I guess that's because while I really like them, I don't believe the feelings are reciprocated (like I mentioned before).

Very true, but, that's not much unlike real life - no? You meet people, perhaps even feel a *kinship* with for awhile, then the relationship cools. It doesn't negate all the wonderful positive things that you will take from that journey down a common path! And sometimes it ends badly, but even in that is a life lesson to be learned. I know I've learned a thing or 2 from my *relationships* on these boards - some of it has been down right childish, stupid, adolescent bull crappy. But, I've found a few gems too - and for these, the rest was well worth it!

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friend

by teejay in

jw
friends

what's your definition?

how would you define the word... the person you'd refer to by that word?

what *is* a friend?

pettygrudger

Question: can you establish a real, live friendship ONLINE? With someone you've never laid eyes on? With someone who's so far away that they wouldn't be able to bail you out of jail? Or be the one who goes through your stuff when you die?

All I can say, is that I *feel* honored to call you friend Teejay. I would feel honored to send the money via the air waves to bail you out of jail.

I *feel* honored to have made a few friends online, that have been further strengthened in real life conversations, and getting to know them face to face. The same way I would feel honored to meet YOU face to face, and further strengthen a wonderful *online* relationship.

Not all *friends* turn out to be that way, especially when meeting online. But that's not unlike real life is it?

So simply put - YES.

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friend

by teejay in

jw
friends

what's your definition?

how would you define the word... the person you'd refer to by that word?

what *is* a friend?

pettygrudger

(((SP))) Come to Michigan - long lost auntie Rhonda's right here!

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friend

by teejay in

jw
friends

what's your definition?

how would you define the word... the person you'd refer to by that word?

what *is* a friend?

pettygrudger

a friend is simply someone who knows you well but likes/loves you anyway; someone who sees the person you really are ? the good and the bad ? understands what it is they see, and they still like you and gives you support... whatever kind of support you need.

True - and a *real* friend won't just give you *nice* support always - some times they'll be willing to kick you in the butt to help you get out of your own head.

I don't think *friend* can only be determined by how much a person is willing to give you in terms of support & "atta boys" - a friend is also determined more importantly by how much you are willing to give, and how far you're willing to go, for them.

I'm just now, FINALLY, beginning to understand the different *levels* of friendship. I used to go into every relationship/friendship thinking of the person as almost a long lost relative, a member of my family. As someone I would swim through a lake of fire to bring a glass of water. My hubby finally made me realize that this just isn't possible, that my *feelings* aren't necessarily reciprocated, that the level of love & respect that I bring to any given relationship is not always how someone is feeling about me, even if they like me. That was actually hard to take. But I've learned to not try to recreate a family I no longer have, with every potential *friend* I come across.

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A couple of plans on solving this whole 'divided' US thing:

by Xander in

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how about this one?.

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pettygrudger

Why don't we want New York? From all the hub-bub - it's mostly likely the Senator from that State that's getting the next Democratic nomination

LOL @ Wildhorses!!! I live in Michigan - you can come up here & stay w/me!

That's right Hillbilly - you'd make an EXCELLENT border patrol person. I just wanna stand behind you & go "nah nah nah nah nah nah" (oh, and let Walter in - he's cool!).